tips on getting constant draw and kick - Page 4 - E-Cigarette Forum

sl9 · 10-16-2008, 07:35 PM

I was also getting a bit frustrated with my super mini, but I have found some techniques that work thanks to these forums, and this thread in particular.

I can't really tell if blocking one of the holes on the super mini makes any difference for me, but a slow draw definitely does! So here are my tips for the super mini, may or may not work on other e-cigs too:

1. Push the cartridge HARD into the atomizer. Not too hard as you don't want to break it, but give it a really firm push which leaves no doubt that it's in as far as it can go. I've noticed that this gives it much more consistent performance, and more smoke.

2. Slow draw! This has already been mentioned in this thread. The idea is to breathe in as slowly as possible, but fast enough to activate the LED on your e-cig and keeping it activated without "skipping". I found that doing this gives me more smoke than I have been able to get before.

3. Don't suck and inhale at the same time (or inhale from your mouth, not your lungs at first). What on earth does this mean? Well it's the same way I used to smoke real cigarettes, and I found that it gives a much better and more satisfying "throat hit" with e-cigs too. This is very much personal preference, heck some of you may already do this, but I'll describe it anyway in case someone finds it useful!
Basically you clamp your lips round the e-cig, block the back of your throat with your tongue (but leaving your nose free to breathe normal air of course!), and slowly open your mouth as much as possible by moving your jaw downwards (keep your lips sealed round the e-cig when you're doing this). It will cause your mouth to fill with smoke. Then, when you can't draw in any more smoke, you inhale it with your lungs. All of the smoke should hit the back of your throat at once, and it should give you a good hit! Another advantage with this method is you take in a less smoke overall, and I find it more satisfying.

sl9 · 10-17-2008, 09:04 AM

Since making the above post I've found that the majority of people seem to inhale into the mouth first before taking it into the lungs, so ignore tip #3

One thing I've found with the super mini which I don't know applies to any other models of e-cig or not, is that occasionally a cartridge may fit too loosely in the atomizer, causing it to get stuck in the mouthpiece when you remove it to change cartridge, and also causing it to not fit onto the atomizer well enough. This seems to be about 1 in 5 cartridges for me, the manufacturer could improve this model by developing a more secure cartridge fitting mechanism on the atomizer. A very small piece of sticky tape easily fixes this problem.

rock · 02-23-2009, 01:53 AM

When I got my Janty Kissbox a week ago the draw was great, now its getting weaker too and its drive me NUTS!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by DeviLFisH

okie I kinda bored

the draw and kick is not constant , maybe due the cart I used

even I used fresh battery and fresh cart

the kick is not not constant...even if got the kick behind my thoat...
is short live

lordmage · 02-23-2009, 04:33 AM

another possiblity to why the hit is dying overtime is how much it has been used without cooling down and proper cleaning.. also could be tolerance build up as staed early in thread. take your time up you nic or switch to lower nic and go for high nic when you really crave

Spikey · 02-23-2009, 06:01 AM

Cleaning the atomizer works every time for me. Vapor and hit feels low after 3 days not cleaning it. Blow instead of washing if you hafta... it helps.

Cuando · 02-23-2009, 06:09 AM

I've been alternating between two atomizers for nearly 3 weeks now (classic penstyle from PS - what model is this thing, anyway???), and I've had zero problems w/ my atomizers. My cleaning method? Stand one up on a paper towel overnight. I might even move it around if the thought occurs to me, but usually, I just set it up to drain and dry out.

I'm having pretty great luck already. I've got one unused atomizer on deck, and a new batch of gear coming this week, so I think I should be good for at least another month or two, not counting juice (which I have a couple weeks worth).

More on topic, I think if you're looking for longevity with vaping, go with one of the big dogs like a penstyle or pipe/cigar. I'm an unabashed fan of the penstyle, and have no desire to branch out at all. My EVO backup is nice and all, but it feels like a novelty in the face of my pen. I get hits off my pen that keep me nicced up VERY nicely, and with a very generous cutoff and the biggest carts on the market, it's a no-brainer. I actually can feel the hits off my pen, while I sometimes can't even tell if my EVO is vaping at all.

deemkooo · 02-23-2009, 08:22 AM

Did you remove the "filter" that was on the atomizer and replace it with a packaged one? The atomizers are shipped with a blank one to protect it. The packaged ones have moist fiber material in them.

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Originally Posted by ukmadstu

Hi hopefully on correct thread, just received my new dse901, charged battery (two of them) im now drawing on e-cig and getting no vapour. It lights up correctly and not blinking but no matter what i do it isn't working please help its it a duff atomiser?

rlorange · 03-12-2009, 08:09 AM

Just discovered a cart mod which solves inconsistency vapor production problems. Check my post in this forum.

Simple and effective way to boost cart performace.

mmmelaney · 03-12-2009, 11:08 AM

Hi, I'm new here (2 days with a pink 901.)

I just discovered something on my own after reading the thread linked above. The 901 is too small for that mod but if I take the wool out of the 901 mouthpiece and stand it up loosely in the atomizer I get great hits... finally!

Alternatively, the mouthpiece that came with the device is tighter fitting than the loaded cartridge mouthpieces. I used the tighter one instead and only put the wool in halfway. Then, when I put it on the atomizer it presses against it and makes better contact.

With both of these methods I am being careful not to draw too fast and hard because I am sure I could burn the wool up and ruin everything.

I just use the quick-hit, slow-hit method everyone talks about here and it works pretty well.

02-23-2009, 04:33 AM	#34
lordmage Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,784	another possiblity to why the hit is dying overtime is how much it has been used without cooling down and proper cleaning.. also could be tolerance build up as staed early in thread. take your time up you nic or switch to lower nic and go for high nic when you really crave __________________

02-23-2009, 06:09 AM	#36
Cuando Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ABQ NM Posts: 169	I've been alternating between two atomizers for nearly 3 weeks now (classic penstyle from PS - what model is this thing, anyway???), and I've had zero problems w/ my atomizers. My cleaning method? Stand one up on a paper towel overnight. I might even move it around if the thought occurs to me, but usually, I just set it up to drain and dry out. I'm having pretty great luck already. I've got one unused atomizer on deck, and a new batch of gear coming this week, so I think I should be good for at least another month or two, not counting juice (which I have a couple weeks worth). More on topic, I think if you're looking for longevity with vaping, go with one of the big dogs like a penstyle or pipe/cigar. I'm an unabashed fan of the penstyle, and have no desire to branch out at all. My EVO backup is nice and all, but it feels like a novelty in the face of my pen. I get hits off my pen that keep me nicced up VERY nicely, and with a very generous cutoff and the biggest carts on the market, it's a no-brainer. I actually can feel the hits off my pen, while I sometimes can't even tell if my EVO is vaping at all. __________________

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10-16-2008, 07:35 PM	#31
sl9 Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 28	I was also getting a bit frustrated with my super mini, but I have found some techniques that work thanks to these forums, and this thread in particular. I can't really tell if blocking one of the holes on the super mini makes any difference for me, but a slow draw definitely does! So here are my tips for the super mini, may or may not work on other e-cigs too: 1. Push the cartridge HARD into the atomizer. Not too hard as you don't want to break it, but give it a really firm push which leaves no doubt that it's in as far as it can go. I've noticed that this gives it much more consistent performance, and more smoke. 2. Slow draw! This has already been mentioned in this thread. The idea is to breathe in as slowly as possible, but fast enough to activate the LED on your e-cig and keeping it activated without "skipping". I found that doing this gives me more smoke than I have been able to get before. 3. Don't suck and inhale at the same time (or inhale from your mouth, not your lungs at first). What on earth does this mean? Well it's the same way I used to smoke real cigarettes, and I found that it gives a much better and more satisfying "throat hit" with e-cigs too. This is very much personal preference, heck some of you may already do this, but I'll describe it anyway in case someone finds it useful! Basically you clamp your lips round the e-cig, block the back of your throat with your tongue (but leaving your nose free to breathe normal air of course!), and slowly open your mouth as much as possible by moving your jaw downwards (keep your lips sealed round the e-cig when you're doing this). It will cause your mouth to fill with smoke. Then, when you can't draw in any more smoke, you inhale it with your lungs. All of the smoke should hit the back of your throat at once, and it should give you a good hit! Another advantage with this method is you take in a less smoke overall, and I find it more satisfying.

10-17-2008, 09:04 AM	#32
sl9 Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 28	Since making the above post I've found that the majority of people seem to inhale into the mouth first before taking it into the lungs, so ignore tip #3 One thing I've found with the super mini which I don't know applies to any other models of e-cig or not, is that occasionally a cartridge may fit too loosely in the atomizer, causing it to get stuck in the mouthpiece when you remove it to change cartridge, and also causing it to not fit onto the atomizer well enough. This seems to be about 1 in 5 cartridges for me, the manufacturer could improve this model by developing a more secure cartridge fitting mechanism on the atomizer. A very small piece of sticky tape easily fixes this problem.

02-23-2009, 06:01 AM	#35
Spikey Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 1,338	Cleaning the atomizer works every time for me. Vapor and hit feels low after 3 days not cleaning it. Blow instead of washing if you hafta... it helps.

03-12-2009, 08:09 AM	#38
rlorange Full Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 141	Just discovered a cart mod which solves inconsistency vapor production problems. Check my post in this forum. Simple and effective way to boost cart performace.

03-12-2009, 11:08 AM	#39
mmmelaney Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Hi, I'm new here (2 days with a pink 901.) I just discovered something on my own after reading the thread linked above. The 901 is too small for that mod but if I take the wool out of the 901 mouthpiece and stand it up loosely in the atomizer I get great hits... finally! Alternatively, the mouthpiece that came with the device is tighter fitting than the loaded cartridge mouthpieces. I used the tighter one instead and only put the wool in halfway. Then, when I put it on the atomizer it presses against it and makes better contact. With both of these methods I am being careful not to draw too fast and hard because I am sure I could burn the wool up and ruin everything. I just use the quick-hit, slow-hit method everyone talks about here and it works pretty well.