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    I've found my favourite way yet to use PTBs to fill 510 carts, I think it was inspired by someone on this forum but I can't find the post now. Basically it's the best of both worlds, PTB filler and the reservoir/plug setup that people have been trying to find perfect plugs for. It does involve a lot of tricky rolling, so be patient! I think my experimentation is over, every drag from this cart has been perfect so far and there's an awful lot of liquid in there. I'll count the drops next time I do it. On short drags I'm getting twice as much vapor as I did with other PTB rolling methods (I assure you I have tried them all and quite a few I've never seen anyone else do) and 10 second 'bonghits' are ridiculous. Wicking is just as good if not better than all the other methods I've tried.
    1. Half-fill your cart with liquid. You probably won't have your hands free to do this later.
    2. Cut your PTB into two 1"x1" squares. Fold one of them in half as firmly as you can.
    3. Fit the unfolded square into the folded square so one edge is against the fold. You should now have one square, half of which has three layers and the other half one layer.
    4. From the folded edge, start folding/rolling the assembly up towards the halfway point. You are aiming to make a flat roll a bit more than 1/8" wide. When you get to the halfway point, fold it over once more. You should have a pretty thick roll of PTB attached to a single layer, the total width of which should be about the length of your cart. If it's a bit long the single-layer at the bottom of the cart will crumple up a bit so don't worry.
    5. Now you need to start rolling from the short side, again a flat roll as the cart opening is not circular. This is the tricky bit as rolling up the roll you made in the previous step will tax the shape-holding qualities of the material and it will be slipping all over the place. Don't worry about what the single-layer end is doing, just concentrate on keeping your little swiss roll together. If it starts slipping into a cone shape just push it back together and roll tighter. When you're done, you'll have something that looks a bit like a jellyfish.
    6. Hopefully you're still gripping the roll tightly. Now you have to feed the single-layer end into the cart and then push the plug in after it. You shouldn't have juice overflowing as there is not a lot of material in the bottom half of the cart, just enough to wick it up to the plug. If there are any parts of the plug standing proud from the others push them into place with a paperclip. You should also locate the outside end of the roll and enlarge the gap it makes with the cart edge slightly (again with the paperclip) as this will be your air vent ala the straw mod.
    7. Once you've done this you are done, just top it up and make sure your air vent is bubbling well.
    8. Happy vaping!

    That's a lot of words, hopefully I've made myself clear. I'll probably make a video at some point. Anyone want to try it out?

    I should note that I'm using Ecopure as PG is horrible to my throat. Ecopure is quite a bit thinner than the PG juices I've had so the large amount of plug material is necessary to stop your atomiser flooding. For PG you might need to only use about 2/3s of the material and roll it less tightly/fluff it a bit more. I would suggest cutting after step 4 as the longer piece is easier to roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawghouse View Post
    Bob,

    I'm using it with my 510 without any burnt plastic taste whatsoever. If you're not wicking well I'm going to suggest it may be a bit too tight. Did that once and it didn't seem to wick very well. On my 510 I do the accordian fold rather than rolling. Be sure you're not leaving too much of the material exposed. Should be just below the level of the top of the cart. I take the sheet (half the width) accordian fold it, and then fold in half. Slide it into the cart all the way, then back it out about 1/16 of an inch and trim off flush. Then slide it back in and fill. Hope this helps...most are getting good wicking an no plastic taste.
    I've been thinking about going back to poly, I'll have to try the accordion fold, sounds like it makes more sense then rolling.

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    I'm rather shocked at how much more effective this material seems to be than the stock cartridge fill. I suppose this is a reflection of the fact that electronic cigarettes constitute a design that's in its infancy. I imagine that future stock cartridges will eventually work even better than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kameleon View Post
    I've found my favourite way yet to use PTBs to fill 510 carts, I think it was inspired by someone on this forum but I can't find the post now. Basically it's the best of both worlds, PTB filler and the reservoir/plug setup that people have been trying to find perfect plugs for. It does involve a lot of tricky rolling, so be patient! I think my experimentation is over, every drag from this cart has been perfect so far and there's an awful lot of liquid in there. I'll count the drops next time I do it. On short drags I'm getting twice as much vapor as I did with other PTB rolling methods (I assure you I have tried them all and quite a few I've never seen anyone else do) and 10 second 'bonghits' are ridiculous. Wicking is just as good if not better than all the other methods I've tried.
    1. Half-fill your cart with liquid. You probably won't have your hands free to do this later.
    2. Cut your PTB into two 1"x1" squares. Fold one of them in half as firmly as you can.
    3. Fit the unfolded square into the folded square so one edge is against the fold. You should now have one square, half of which has three layers and the other half one layer.
    4. From the folded edge, start folding/rolling the assembly up towards the halfway point. You are aiming to make a flat roll a bit more than 1/8" wide. When you get to the halfway point, fold it over once more. You should have a pretty thick roll of PTB attached to a single layer, the total width of which should be about the length of your cart. If it's a bit long the single-layer at the bottom of the cart will crumple up a bit so don't worry.
    5. Now you need to start rolling from the short side, again a flat roll as the cart opening is not circular. This is the tricky bit as rolling up the roll you made in the previous step will tax the shape-holding qualities of the material and it will be slipping all over the place. Don't worry about what the single-layer end is doing, just concentrate on keeping your little swiss roll together. If it starts slipping into a cone shape just push it back together and roll tighter. When you're done, you'll have something that looks a bit like a jellyfish.
    6. Hopefully you're still gripping the roll tightly. Now you have to feed the single-layer end into the cart and then push the plug in after it. You shouldn't have juice overflowing as there is not a lot of material in the bottom half of the cart, just enough to wick it up to the plug. If there are any parts of the plug standing proud from the others push them into place with a paperclip. You should also locate the outside end of the roll and enlarge the gap it makes with the cart edge slightly (again with the paperclip) as this will be your air vent ala the straw mod.
    7. Once you've done this you are done, just top it up and make sure your air vent is bubbling well.
    8. Happy vaping!
    That's a lot of words, hopefully I've made myself clear. I'll probably make a video at some point. Anyone want to try it out?

    I should note that I'm using Ecopure as PG is horrible to my throat. Ecopure is quite a bit thinner than the PG juices I've had so the large amount of plug material is necessary to stop your atomiser flooding. For PG you might need to only use about 2/3s of the material and roll it less tightly/fluff it a bit more. I would suggest cutting after step 4 as the longer piece is easier to roll.
    Indded an video would be nice ... how about more info's ... how much do you get from that half filled cartridge ..how many drags till u need to top off?

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    Im using the double folded version of this "PTB Plug Full 510 Cart" now, the rolled one not the plug. still working really well for me and a few others. 510/ 901 and i think someone with an janty stick

    hope it helps someone.

    rho

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    Quote Originally Posted by borjis View Post
    THANK YOU. YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!!
    (claps hands)
    Well, subitonPete came up with the tea bag idea in general, and I came up with the idea to use those Lipton Pyramid Tea Bags...

    So thank you

    This idea has taken off and I first mentioned it back in May...

    My first mention on the boards...

    and here...

    Here's where I mention the brand.

    Heh, I'm the evil genius
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    FRAK YOU Ash.org!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzyb0t View Post
    Well, subitonPete came up with the tea bag idea in general, and I came up with the idea to use those Lipton Pyramid Tea Bags...

    So thank you

    This idea has taken off and I first mentioned it back in May...

    My first mention on the boards...

    and here...

    Here's where I mention the brand.

    Heh, I'm the evil genius
    Yeah... and I am still using the old hemp tea bags because I will have to make a special trip into town for the pyramid tea bags they aren't so easy to get a hold of in the uk. but I shall get around to trying them eventually..lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surbitonPete View Post
    Yeah... and I am still using the old hemp tea bags because I will have to make a special trip into town for the pyramid tea bags they aren't so easy to get a hold of in the uk. but I shall get around to trying them eventually..lol.
    If you've got a larger Tescos near you, they do them and they are about a quid a box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisaf01 View Post
    If you've got a larger Tescos near you, they do them and they are about a quid a box.
    Hi there lovely lisa....the trouble is Tesco's is in the heart of scarborough town and I completely avoid going into town unless I really have no choice, too much traffic for me. lol

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