Daily dry burn for cleaning atties.

[surbitonPete]

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Still doing this since Tuesday, no reduction in vapor yet.

edit: Did get a really bad burnt taste after doing it today, filled it up with vodka and shook it around. Seemed to take care of it mostly, took another 30 minutes of vaping for it to taste 100% clean again.

Fingers crossed Daedalus......my atty has reached forty days today I think ..(I am loosing track of time) I only ever use one atty at a time so it has vaped at least 120ml of juice in that time. I can't see why it wouldn't work just as good for everyone but there are a lot of variables in vaping.

[sattec]

you don't have to do a daily burn if you run your atty lean and don't flood it often.

[surbitonPete]

Originally Posted by sattec

you don't have to do a daily burn if you run your atty lean and don't flood it often.

Yes I have the theory that 'some' of the people who get a good life from atties could very well be people who vape their cart until it's nearly dry so in effect could be doing a dry burn unintentionally.

[sattec]

imo, nobody does a "dry" burn, do you know how hard it is to completely dry out your atty? It takes a long time of blowing air into the lit up atty and blowing air until no more smoke comes out.....long time folks, very long. Running lean and making sure your batt is providing good hot power is key. Complete burns everytime is very important otherwise the gunk starts building up quickly.

[surbitonPete]

Originally Posted by sattec

imo, nobody does a "dry" burn, do you know how hard it is to completely dry out your atty? It takes a long time of blowing air into the lit up atty and blowing air until no more smoke comes out.....long time folks, very long. Running lean and making sure your batt is providing good hot power is key. Complete burns everytime is very important otherwise the gunk starts building up quickly.

Well I know for sure that I do a dry burn...I can see the coil glow red and when it's glowing red it 'must' be dry and it only takes a few seconds of power to do that when I take the cart off. The coil itself 'has' to be dry to glow red. It couldn't be wet and glowing, try dropping a bit of water onto a red hot electric cooker ring and you will see the glow is gone for a few seconds until it is dry. Nothing will glow red hot if it is wet. Try it on anything at all that is glowing red hot, it will only glow when it's dry.

[kinabaloo]

Originally Posted by surbitonPete

Yes I have the theory that 'some' of the people who get a good life from atties could very well be people who vape their cart until it's nearly dry so in effect could be doing a dry burn unintentionally.

I almost posted exactly this thought a few times (perhaps did) - this is the rational explanation.

Doesn't matter if the cart is full - the coil can get dry.

SubitonPete is right. (And also that a red-hot coil must be dry).

ps: still quietly working on the idea that degraded nicotine might be a constituent of the gunk; besides degraded VG and ashed dry residues).

[surbitonPete]

Originally Posted by kinabaloo

I almost posted exactly this thought a few times (perhaps did) - this is the rational explanation.

Doesn't matter if the cart is full - the coil can get dry.

SubitonPete is right. (And also that a red-hot coil must be dry).

ps: still quietly working on the idea that degraded nicotine might be a constituent of the gunk; besides degraded VG and ashed dry residues).

Hi steve ..if that 'is' the case then I guess a clean 'gunkless' juice, with nicotine in it, is not a possibility. Glad to hear you are still experimenting though. I have been expecting you to come up with a fully working amazing new type of atty or something.

(actually that makes me wonder if some of the people who have very long life atties might also be the one's who use very low nic juice. I pretty much have only used the 36mg and trying out different flavourings and different types of juice didn't seem to make any difference to the amount of gunk I found)

[jvapor]

Originally Posted by Synthnadz

My only reason for providing the warning was that your suggested method comes across as a preventative measure of sorts. So, if you just slapped on a new atty and are interested in prolonging its life, you may read this thread and say 'let me give that a shot' - just like I did.

Perhaps my assumption about the wick burning is not the case, and it's in fact something else that's burning. Either way, I'm just doing my part to provide my own recent experience for anyone considering this.

If you read my post you'll see that I did not tell everyone to 'not try this'. I merely posted a warning about your method and shared my own failed experiences with the 'dry burn' method. It cost me 2 brand new 801 attys, so I think posting a warning for those thinking about trying this is certainly warranted.

Damn - I wish it worked for me, as my atomizers are not going the distance at all. Is anyone else doing the dry burn and getting good results?

I use the dry burn method but only once per week. I still have very good vapor and taste. I do this on my 2 510 attys, 3 801 attys, and 2 RN4081 attys. I have only killed one of the 801 attys when I first started messing around with dry burning but that was my overheating the atty. The rest of my attys are past the 2 month mark and still going strong. I do not heat my atty for more than three seconds at a time and I let them cool completely before each burn. I never rinse my attys though. Thats how I do it but others may do it differently. I am also a heavy chain vapor. I vape 24mg liquid. I only drip and at present have not used any mods. I imagine that mods like the prodogy might use up attys quicker.

[Daedalus]

7 Days now at 100% vapor production, nothing to your 40(!!!) but that's better luck than I usually have. They're usually down to 75% by a week out and then a few more weeks and it's 50%.

For what it's worth, when I look under the bridge at the coil I can still make out the wires wrapped around the core of it. Sure, they're not shiny brand new but the layer of brown grime seems thin.

[surbitonPete]

Originally Posted by jvapor

I use the dry burn method but only once per week. I still have very good vapor and taste. I do this on my 2 510 attys, 3 801 attys, and 2 RN4081 attys. I have only killed one of the 801 attys when I first started messing around with dry burning but that was my overheating the atty. The rest of my attys are past the 2 month mark and still going strong. I do not heat my atty for more than three seconds at a time and I let them cool completely before each burn. I never rinse my attys though. Thats how I do it but others may do it differently. I am also a heavy chain vapor and at present have not used any mods. I imagine that mods like the prodogy might use up attys quicker.

hi jvapor ...from taking apart many failed atties I found that a lot of gunk can build up in just a couple of 'days' of vaping and once that amount of gunk has built up the dry burn can often burn the atty out instead of clean it off, so I am surprised that only doing it once a week is working for you!!. Just out of curiosity do you use a low nic juice? and when you say the 'rest' of your atties are past the two month mark do you mean you have used each individual atty for two months of solid vaping or do you mean that several atties have lasted for a two month period?