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kristin · 10-08-2009, 08:30 PM

10 tips to avoid harsh, burnt taste on 510 atomizers

(Or, "What I've learned so far on ECF...")

These tips may work on other atomizers, as well.

1. Blow out the primer fluid on new attys

2. Two drops of liquid on the new atty, "puff & blow" until the atty takes on the flavor of the liquid

3. Don't drag too long to overheat the juice on the atty

4. Don't use too fast between draws to allow the atty to wick up more juice & cool down

5. Modify the filler (PTB or straw method) to optimize wicking and not have to top off or refill as much

6. Occasionally remove the filler and rinse it out, dry & refill

7. Certain flavors can handle a long, slow draw (tobacco, menthol, coffee, nut flavors) and certain ones taste better with a quick, deep draw (fruity, delicate, sweet flavors.)

8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!!

9. Don't flood the atty or it may overwork it trying to vaporize the excess liquid.

10. Try different liquids & nic levels. Not all liquids are created equal. If you aren't satified with the vapor/throat hit, you may be overusing it and not allowing time for the the atty to wick & cool.

Feel free to add more tips and comments or elaborate on cleaning methods here!

ShinKun · 10-08-2009, 08:39 PM

Sound advice! Thanks!

I finally am getting mine down. When I was using carts it was the burning polyfill then when I started dripping it was too much juice, not enough juice, or not enough juice in the bat but yesterday and today(so far) smooth and satisfying. I don't know how I could have made it without ECF and posters like you!

Thanks again!!!

pay10place · 10-08-2009, 08:48 PM

I love my 510 for the most part, thanks for this wonderful tips as I will incorporate them. However, I have to top off a LOT as well as change my batteries 3-4 times per day. Is there a comparative brand that gives good throat hits with longer battery life?? Thanks in advance for you time.

afihigh019 · 10-08-2009, 09:03 PM

thanks! really helpful tips!

Richie G · 10-08-2009, 09:33 PM

......8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!!...

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Especially research the boiling suggestion. As I understand it, some atomizers use a neoprene 'O' ring (a rubber-like grommet) that will be destroyed by boiling water.

I add a couple of drops of Everclear to whatever I'm vaping (drip-style) and vape it out like normal. When the atty runs nearly dry I wash the atty out with dish washing soap and rinse under running warm water. Blow it out, allow to dry out completely, drip new liquid and vape. This works especially well with liquids that tend to linger longer than one wants. =)

cyberwolf · 10-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pay10place

I love my 510 for the most part, thanks for this wonderful tips as I will incorporate them. However, I have to top off a LOT as well as change my batteries 3-4 times per day. Is there a comparative brand that gives good throat hits with longer battery life?? Thanks in advance for you time.

You have accurately described the 510! Great vapor and throat hit - lousy cartridge and battery life. I find that shaking the 510 towards the LED end helps to get a little more liquid out of a cart.

I like the M401 series compared to the 510 for better catridge life and they also tend to use most of the juice in the catridge. Their batteries last a lot longer, although I am sure someone else will let you know that a big battery unit or mod is the best solution for long battery life.

VaporStyx · 10-08-2009, 09:59 PM

Here's one that may help:

11. Pay attention to two symptoms that you don't have enough liquid on your atomizer: Taste and temperature. If the liquid suddenly tastes a bit "off", or if the outside of the 510 where the atomizer is situated gets a bit hot (warm is normal), you need to add more liquid. Alternately, for those using carts seeing one of these symptoms, allow more time for wicking between puffs.

It takes a bit of practice, but never letting your e-cig run dry (or even semi-dry) really helps prevent that bad taste.

VaporStyx · 10-08-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pay10place

I love my 510 for the most part, thanks for this wonderful tips as I will incorporate them. However, I have to top off a LOT as well as change my batteries 3-4 times per day. Is there a comparative brand that gives good throat hits with longer battery life?? Thanks in advance for you time.

Have you tried getting a PCC for your 510? One Charged PCC and two 510 batteries lasts about a day to a day and a half for me, and I vape pretty heavily.

kristin · 10-08-2009, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pay10place

I love my 510 for the most part, thanks for this wonderful tips as I will incorporate them. However, I have to top off a LOT as well as change my batteries 3-4 times per day. Is there a comparative brand that gives good throat hits with longer battery life?? Thanks in advance for you time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaporStyx

Have you tried getting a PCC for your 510? One Charged PCC and two 510 batteries lasts about a day to a day and a half for me, and I vape pretty heavily.

Also, topping off a lot is a sign that your filler isn't wicking properly. Do #5 to help with that.

Yes, changing batteries is a pain - but it it really more work than pulling out a cigarette, finding you lighter and lighting it?

A PCC keeps a charged battery always at hand. If you vape a lot at home, try a USB passthrough. I keep my laptop nearby with it plugged in. I only use batteries when I go out. But they make passthroughs for your car charger, too!

ProfessorDaffy · 10-08-2009, 11:03 PM

8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!!

About every other night I run my atomizer under how water for about a minute right before I go to bed. Dry it, roll up a Kleenex or paper towel, push it in the opening (DO NOT TWIST) to draw out the moisture, and let it sit overnight. About once a week I give it a few hours to soak in diet cola (helps dissolve the water soluble ingredients in e-juice). The next day on my drive to work the vapor is so wonderful it makes me want to giggle.

It's just simple everyday (or so) maintenance the leads to happy vaping. Nothing far fetched. Nothing to mod. Just rinse out the old droplets of e-juice that have dried up and crystallized for improved air flow and vapor production.

--Prof Daffy
P.S. Keep telling yourself atomizers are supposed to be disposable and don't get too attached to them. If you get a good month or two of use out of them they've more then done their job. How much do they cost really? A pack of cigarettes? Two?
P.P.S. I fully expect to dispose of an atomizer after a month. But my last atomizer is still working so well I don't have the heart to let it go.

10-08-2009, 08:30 PM	#1
kristin Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,400	10 tips to avoid harsh, burnt taste on 510 atomizers 10 tips to avoid harsh, burnt taste on 510 atomizers (Or, "What I've learned so far on ECF...") These tips may work on other atomizers, as well. 1. Blow out the primer fluid on new attys 2. Two drops of liquid on the new atty, "puff & blow" until the atty takes on the flavor of the liquid 3. Don't drag too long to overheat the juice on the atty 4. Don't use too fast between draws to allow the atty to wick up more juice & cool down 5. Modify the filler (PTB or straw method) to optimize wicking and not have to top off or refill as much 6. Occasionally remove the filler and rinse it out, dry & refill 7. Certain flavors can handle a long, slow draw (tobacco, menthol, coffee, nut flavors) and certain ones taste better with a quick, deep draw (fruity, delicate, sweet flavors.) 8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!! 9. Don't flood the atty or it may overwork it trying to vaporize the excess liquid. 10. Try different liquids & nic levels. Not all liquids are created equal. If you aren't satified with the vapor/throat hit, you may be overusing it and not allowing time for the the atty to wick & cool. Feel free to add more tips and comments or elaborate on cleaning methods here! __________________ Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Your 510 FAQ's Thread Tobacco Free Since 8/21/09 Last edited by kristin; 10-08-2009 at 08:33 PM.

10-08-2009, 08:39 PM	#2
ShinKun Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 121	Sound advice! Thanks! I finally am getting mine down. When I was using carts it was the burning polyfill then when I started dripping it was too much juice, not enough juice, or not enough juice in the bat but yesterday and today(so far) smooth and satisfying. I don't know how I could have made it without ECF and posters like you! Thanks again!!! __________________

10-08-2009, 08:48 PM	#3
pay10place Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 14	510 h e l p I love my 510 for the most part, thanks for this wonderful tips as I will incorporate them. However, I have to top off a LOT as well as change my batteries 3-4 times per day. Is there a comparative brand that gives good throat hits with longer battery life?? Thanks in advance for you time.

10-08-2009, 09:59 PM	#7
VaporStyx Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC, USA Posts: 19	Here's one that may help: 11. Pay attention to two symptoms that you don't have enough liquid on your atomizer: Taste and temperature. If the liquid suddenly tastes a bit "off", or if the outside of the 510 where the atomizer is situated gets a bit hot (warm is normal), you need to add more liquid. Alternately, for those using carts seeing one of these symptoms, allow more time for wicking between puffs. It takes a bit of practice, but never letting your e-cig run dry (or even semi-dry) really helps prevent that bad taste. Last edited by VaporStyx; 10-08-2009 at 10:03 PM. Reason: fixed typos

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10-08-2009, 09:03 PM	#4
afihigh019 Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 10	thanks! really helpful tips!

10-08-2009, 09:33 PM	#5
Richie G Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lawn Guyland, NY Posts: 473	......8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!!... > Especially research the boiling suggestion. As I understand it, some atomizers use a neoprene 'O' ring (a rubber-like grommet) that will be destroyed by boiling water. I add a couple of drops of Everclear to whatever I'm vaping (drip-style) and vape it out like normal. When the atty runs nearly dry I wash the atty out with dish washing soap and rinse under running warm water. Blow it out, allow to dry out completely, drip new liquid and vape. This works especially well with liquids that tend to linger longer than one wants. =)

10-08-2009, 11:03 PM	#10
ProfessorDaffy Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cleveland, TN Posts: 411	8. Occasionally clean them. Methods to research include blowing them out, hot water rinse, boiling them in water with or without baking soda or vinegar, dry burns, coke and/or vodka baths. Research these before trying!! About every other night I run my atomizer under how water for about a minute right before I go to bed. Dry it, roll up a Kleenex or paper towel, push it in the opening (DO NOT TWIST) to draw out the moisture, and let it sit overnight. About once a week I give it a few hours to soak in diet cola (helps dissolve the water soluble ingredients in e-juice). The next day on my drive to work the vapor is so wonderful it makes me want to giggle. It's just simple everyday (or so) maintenance the leads to happy vaping. Nothing far fetched. Nothing to mod. Just rinse out the old droplets of e-juice that have dried up and crystallized for improved air flow and vapor production. --Prof Daffy P.S. Keep telling yourself atomizers are supposed to be disposable and don't get too attached to them. If you get a good month or two of use out of them they've more then done their job. How much do they cost really? A pack of cigarettes? Two? P.P.S. I fully expect to dispose of an atomizer after a month. But my last atomizer is still working so well I don't have the heart to let it go.