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    What happens after setting down a fully loaded card for an hour on the desk???
    Juice flood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNullity View Post
    I've done this before ... the only problem is if you use too much fluid or too much fluid gets to the heating element it can damage the atomizer quicker. It will also be hard for some people to remove the wick without damaging the leads. They do give a pretty good amount of slack that leads from the fitting to the atomizer. Darmean - Yes they probably did try this before & found out it spent atomizer too quickly & blocked airflow.
    This is the first design of mine which has never flooded. Removing the wick and bridge can be a little difficult. I used a soldering pick tool which is sharp on one side (like a chisel) to just cut it off at the base.

    Airflow is not blocked whatsoever, I have yet to even get a gurgle from the atty while utilizing this method.

    As far as them trying this before.... I doubt they have. I engineered a microwave accelerated peptide synthesizer and spent alot of time with overseas engineers. The amount spent on R&D for an electronic cigarette is negligable I am sure. Basically, if it works half ass, get it out the door, we can fix it later. Another extreme is getting it out the door partly functional and make coin of consumable parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nubee View Post
    What happens after setting down a fully loaded card for an hour on the desk???
    Juice flood?
    Nothing. I tested this specifically. I placed them poly plug side down all night, no leakage. I filled 10 carts like this of various viscosity fluids and hung them for hours. No leaks. I then hung them over the electric stove with burner on to get a heat extreme. Even with the heat thinning viscosity, no leaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winace View Post
    Nothing. I tested this specifically. I placed them poly plug side down all night, no leakage. I filled 10 carts like this of various viscosity fluids and hung them for hours. No leaks. I then hung them over the electric stove with burner on to get a heat extreme. Even with the heat thinning viscosity, no leaks.
    And yes... before the question comes... I tested on its SIDE also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlord View Post
    Gah, your second post on the same mod and still no pics!!!!

    Origional post if this was the lost one you were referring too
    Take this idea and run with it! Modder needed!
    How do you post pics here? Do you need a hosting site? What is a good one to use for the forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winace View Post
    How do you post pics here? Do you need a hosting site? What is a good one to use for the forums?
    Try imgur: the simple image host I found it to be the simplest of all the image hosts. Upload your picture, copy the direct link url. Click add picture in the forum controls, and past the url, done! Good luck.

    p.s. I would love to see some pictures, this sounds very interesting!

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    I would still like to see pictures and, know how to remove the bridge and wick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nubee View Post
    What happens after setting down a fully loaded card for an hour on the desk???
    Juice flood?
    Who sits an e-cig down for an hour?????? J/K

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    Ok, I was testing how much poly to use as a plug. I was also testing the blue foam as a plug. The conlusions drawn are:

    Too much poly and it functions like a normal cart (it sucks, slow to resaturate and equilibriate)

    Too little poly and you will oversature (due to the weight and force of liquid behind it)

    Too much blue foam and it will not penetrate through it.

    Too little blue foam will transfer fluid to anything, thus flooding a coil.

    Then it dawned on me.....

    The smallest piece of blue foam I could use to keep fluid from free-flowing out of the straw was a piece slightly larger in diameter of the straw. The thickness was stock (1/4-3/8"). I put this little piece into the straw and turned the straw over. Nothing came out, even for extended periods. The blue foam is acting as a bridge, it will hold fluid and transfer it to anything, a medium of sorts. It's advatage... it holds fluid. Now, since the blue foam will transfer liquid to anything, I put a very small piece of poly in after it.

    As expected, the poly immediately saturated. When vaporizing the poly-fluid it pulls fluid directly from the blue foam. You can NOT flood, in fact, pull the poly out and you lose nothing (blue foam is still stopping it).

    In the straw is liquid, followed by blue foam, followed by polyfill.

    Cart, poly, bridge, wick, coil... This is the order of a stock e-cig. You get best results by dripping, no? This is because you went this order ----> Liquid, bridge, wick, coil. The wick is just an extension of the bridge, but more heat resistant and easiliy manipulated.

    A cart which goes liquid, bridge (blue foam), to poly, to coil is exactly like dripping, but even better... It has the added advantage of the poly PULLING liquid from the bridge. When dripping, the wick (just before the coil) is just transfering liquid from the bridge, not pulling it from the bridge......

    Just food for thought....

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