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    RSNG--that one type. I tried this stuff and in my opinion it is way to dense to wick--the polyester batting that is used here is at Walmart. Can be found in any fabric stores as well (JoAnne's etc.) and is much less dense (comes in a big bag called polyfill--20oz) and is in fact in my as well as many others opinion what the manufactures use as cores and wicks much better--Hope that helps--Sun
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    You're becoming the video king, keep em coming :-)

    Does replacing the really coarse wick fiber with the thin wispy stuff affect the performance at all?

    Does it empty better or worse?

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    You're becoming the video king, keep em coming :-)

    Does replacing the really coarse wick fiber with the thin wispy stuff affect the performance at all?

    Does it empty better or worse?
    RJG--the more dense the batting--the less it will wick as it holds the e-liquid and will not let it flow to the atomizer wick. That is why a wispy core is much better---Hope that helps--Sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer View Post
    RSNG--that one type. I tried this stuff and in my opinion it is way to dense to wick--the polyester batting that is used here is at Walmart. Can be found in any fabric stores as well (JoAnne's etc.) and is much less dense (comes in a big bag called polyfill--20oz) and is in fact in my as well as many others opinion what the manufactures use as cores and wicks much better--Hope that helps--Sun
    Thanks for the tip... I haven't seen mentioned, what section would it be found in at Walmart?

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    Thanks for the tip... I haven't seen mentioned, what section would it be found in at Walmart?
    RSN--that Walmart is so damn big you could get lost in there lol--There is a fabric section in there that I did not even know was there till about 5 months ago when I went looking for this stuff. You willl find it right there on the shelf--big bags of it called Poly-fill traditional batting" and costs about 7 dollars--Hope that helps--Sun

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    Thanks, I would have probably been looking in the pet section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer View Post
    RJG--the more dense the batting--the less it will wick as it holds the e-liquid and will not let it flow to the atomizer wick. That is why a wispy core is much better---Hope that helps--Sun
    hmm - not really

    I agree stuffing more into the cart is very bad, it doesn't release fluid well at all like that, I think that's what you are referring to "density" right?

    Speaking strictly of the diameter of the fiber itself...
    If found with my cigars, I have had carts stuffed with a thin diameter fiber, and others with a much stiffer, coarser fiber, and the thinner diameter ones seem to work better in terms of being able to use all the fluid up.

    My m401's came with a VERY coarse, thick diameter fiber (very loosely packed) and they work fairly well.

    But I repacked one with some thinner diameter wool from one of my pipe carts, and was surprised to see it didn't work nearly as well, which is the opposite of how it behaved in the cigar.

    So here's my question, worded a bit better this time -

    Q1: has anyone noticed performance differences with coarser, thick diameter fiber wool, versus thinner diameter "wispier" wool?

    Q2: is this walmart 20oz polyester a fairly stiff coarse wool? Watching the video, the replacement wool appeared to be quite a bit thinner diameter stuff than what comes in a factory m401 cart, which is why I am asking
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    Quote Originally Posted by RjG View Post
    hmm - not really

    I agree stuffing more into the cart is very bad, it doesn't release fluid well at all like that, I think that's what you are referring to "density" right?

    Speaking strictly of the diameter of the fiber itself...
    If found with my cigars, I have had carts stuffed with a thin diameter fiber, and others with a much stiffer, coarser fiber, and the thinner diameter ones seem to work better in terms of being able to use all the fluid up.

    My m401's came with a VERY coarse, thick diameter fiber (very loosely packed) and they work fairly well.

    But I repacked one with some thinner diameter wool from one of my pipe carts, and was surprised to see it didn't work nearly as well, which is the opposite of how it behaved in the cigar.

    So here's my question, worded a bit better this time -

    Q1: has anyone noticed performance differences with coarser, thick diameter fiber wool, versus thinner diameter "wispier" wool?

    Q2: is this walmart 20oz polyester a fairly stiff coarse wool? Watching the video, the replacement wool appeared to be quite a bit thinner diameter stuff than what comes in a factory m401 cart, which is why I am asking
    RN--What I mean by denser is the thickness of each actual strand and I think that is what you are refering to. If the diameter is to thick and course it will not wick. The 20 oz at Walmart is not course and is very thin so it is able to allow the e-liquid to wick itself down the cartridge and not get "hung up" so to speak. I hope that clarifies what I am saying--Thanks--Sun

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    Yes, it does clarify that very well, thank you Sun :-)

    I'll go find a bag of that 20oz, and give it a try as well.

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    Just an extra tip.. Q-tips work great to clean out the empty cart of juice and gunk before re-stuffing. The wetness in the cart absorbs better into the cotton than tissue or papertowel.

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