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Old 05-03-2008, 10:45 PM   #1
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Hi all. I keep reading about people having problems with draging, geting dizzy in the process and all that. It appears the solution is rather easy. I have two e-cigarillo from e-cig. Out of the box, they drag hard, just like everybody sais they do. Things change A LOT after a little tracheostomy. That is, a hole, cut/drilled in the metal body, 1 mm toward the mouthpiece from the point where the battery ends when in use. If anybody is interested, I would go into details and add some pics but really... it's all simple: not enough air goes from the cap (with tiny holes) to the atomizing chamber. The battery creates an almost perfect seal that you have to fight when you draw. Increase the airflow, and draging becomes FAR more easy. My cigarillos trippled their value (for me) in 3 minutes of dremel fun.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:30 AM   #2
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Sounds scary! Isn't the microprocessor/vacuum switch in that area? (I have the e-cigar)
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microprocesor ?!?... that's sales speak... no such thing in there (that I've seen)... (what would it do exactly?) I cleared the vacum switch by 2-3 mm. I can see the end of the spring that hold the batery.
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microprocesor ?!?... that's sales speak... no such thing in there (that I've seen)... (what would it do exactly?) I cleared the vacum switch by 2-3 mm. I can see the end of the spring that hold the batery.
I tore an e-cig.com's penstyle battery apart (ongoing project to make a homemade usb plug) there is some electronics below the raw lithium battery itself(small chip and a transistor) near the flow/vacuum switch chamber also which is inside the battery housing. I'll try to post a pic sometime in the future. My current digital camera will not take a clear enough picture for me to post. As far as the atomizer side, I haven't taken one apart yet.. I have a dead atomizer from another company and will dissect it when I have time.
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geppa, the blinking light has to be controlled somehow. not to say the processor does anything too amazing, but it does deal with the light flashing to tell you the battery is dead, etc. leds don't just do that stuff on their own. It also monitors the battery status and attempts to not let it drain too far.

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I tore an e-cig.com's penstyle battery apart (ongoing project to make a homemade usb plug) there is some electronics below the raw lithium battery itself(small chip and a transistor) near the flow/vacuum switch chamber also which is inside the battery housing.
I never said there were no electronics in there. Just that microprocessor is a BIG word in this context. Microcontroller (whole level of complexity below the former) is still a BIG word I'm afraid. Some electronics is far better I think. The difference is big. About as big as is the difference between analogic and digital. So far, I've seen a small circuit with a LED and a rezistor. Both in SMD (surface mounted, read really small) format. I'm yet to dig deeper (I will) so I might be proven wrong in the end. But the function doesn't add up to the description.

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geppa, the blinking light has to be controlled somehow. not to say the processor does anything too amazing, but it does deal with the light flashing to tell you the battery is dead, etc. leds don't just do that stuff on their own. It also monitors the battery status and attempts to not let it drain too far.
There are LEDs that DO blink by themselfes. Not the case here, of course. But still... from blinking a LED when current is low from the battery to having a processor in there is a big, unnecessary and costly jump. And blinking that LED is about the most advanced stuff this device does. That is... THIS device. I've heard about some Ruyan deals that stop after a certain number of draws. That is different. That COULD sugest a microcontroller. Not necessarily.... but it COULD.
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"And controlling the function of the whole device is a silicon chip made by Motorola that ensures that it self cleans routinely every 1500 puffs, and controls the user feedback via the LED at the end of the cigarette."

"Micro" = small; "processor" = device that takes information, processes it creates action/s.

But let me put it another way for you. Isn't it dangerous to drill into your whatchamacallit so close to the thingamajiggy that controls your dodad? You could kaput it with your boo-boo.
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It would be awesome if you could post us some pics. We love pics on here, well at least I do have you seen my youtube videos yet? lol







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I tore an e-cig.com's penstyle battery apart (ongoing project to make a homemade usb plug) there is some electronics below the raw lithium battery itself(small chip and a transistor) near the flow/vacuum switch chamber also which is inside the battery housing.
I never said there were no electronics in there. Just that microprocessor is a BIG word in this context. Microcontroller (whole level of complexity below the former) is still a BIG word I'm afraid. Some electronics is far better I think. The difference is big. About as big as is the difference between analogic and digital. So far, I've seen a small circuit with a LED and a rezistor. Both in SMD (surface mounted, read really small) format. I'm yet to dig deeper (I will) so I might be proven wrong in the end. But the function doesn't add up to the description.

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geppa, the blinking light has to be controlled somehow. not to say the processor does anything too amazing, but it does deal with the light flashing to tell you the battery is dead, etc. leds don't just do that stuff on their own. It also monitors the battery status and attempts to not let it drain too far.
There are LEDs that DO blink by themselfes. Not the case here, of course. But still... from blinking a LED when current is low from the battery to having a processor in there is a big, unnecessary and costly jump. And blinking that LED is about the most advanced stuff this device does. That is... THIS device. I've heard about some Ruyan deals that stop after a certain number of draws. That is different. That COULD sugest a microcontroller. Not necessarily.... but it COULD.
Ok. I understand what you are saying, but in laymen's terms a microprocessor and microcontroller are the same thing. I know that they make blinking leds, but these are not. There has to at least be a "controller" because i guarantee this isn't all controlled with analog electronics, nor just a couple transistors. Problem is that even in the industry, microcontroller and microprocessor is pretty interchangable. Oh and a little atmel processor would costs pennies when ordered in quantity.

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"And controlling the function of the whole device is a silicon chip made by Motorola that ensures that it self cleans routinely every 1500 puffs, and controls the user feedback via the LED at the end of the cigarette."

"Micro" = small; "processor" = device that takes information, processes it creates action/s.

But let me put it another way for you. Isn't it dangerous to drill into your whatchamacallit so close to the thingamajiggy that controls your dodad? You could kaput it with your boo-boo.
Awesome translation, TB!

I wonder what would come out if you ran THAT through Babelfish.
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