Cartridge filler materials

[DaBrat]

Thanks for the tip I isuedthe PolyFill and a noob to boot so it must be easy, after wacthing the vid in the Newbies folder and seeing the post about polyfill her (Walmart). I can say I did a bang up job I think... much better hit too which is why I am looking to cut. Whatever you do don't forget to trim back a bit....lol

[Stonerman33]

I bought myself a big ol' bag of polyfil from Wally world and it worked alright, but I took someone elses suggestion of a teabag and it works wonderfully. Seems to be a bit more consistent when it comes to using up the juice in the cart. Doesn't leave so much unused as the Poly. Vapor production seems a bit more consistant. I think now I am going to try the 'coffee stirrer mod' to see if that makes it just a bit better.

[Kagan]

I did the teabag method for my 901 'the same way you do it for the 510', (I'm not sure how safe it is but I know most tea bags are basically a kind of paper made from wood pulp, hemp and vegetable fibers, BE SURE to cut off the liner since it is made from PVC and polyproyline). I have had it for two days and the polyester fibers that hold the juice started to come apart on my first cart, (these carts are not designed to last long, so you really have to take good care of them and the fibers can burn onto the atomizer if they start to come apart).

So far, the teabag rolley has lasted for two cigs and seems to absorb the liquid well enough...The hits are producing decent amounts of vapor and the atomizer seems to be taking it just fine. I am not sure how well it will hold up, but I will post something about it later when I know more.

Good-luck, .

[vapor trail]

Originally Posted by Derfman1963

Ok, found this out purely by accident. I used to refill my carts with the poly fill from walmart, but one time I had used two pieces because first one was too small. Well it just so happened that one piece got "stuck" in the atomizer tube of my 801 cart. I didnt realize it till I had dripped on it and decided to just use it. Welllllll, whadda ya know, it worked great. Just to clarify, I use a small amount of wadding that I stick directly over the heating element, well the bridge piece to be exact. No it doesnt melt, or catch on fire, just remember, thats where the cart sits normally. I drip onto the fill instead of directly into the atomizer and it works great. The atomizer doesn't get flooded, and it smokes longer per drop then a direct drip! It's easy to replace with a pair of tweezers and I can drip more onto it then I would be able to without it. It doesn't last as long as a full cart by any means, but it doesn't leak nearly as much either. I been doing this for a few days now and I prefer it to either carts or direct dripping. Others I have show and have tried it like it too. Especially those that normally drip. It's alot less messy. Let me know what you guys think.

That's exactly what I just started doing. I mean like 5 minutes ago. So far it's working great. I'm using a 901. Just pull the filler out of a blank cart, tear off enough of it to fill the atomizer chamber about three fourths of the way, drip directly onto it, put the empty cart on and vape.

If this continues to be as good of a method as it appears to be so far, my vaping experience just got a whole lot better.

[DrSarcasmo]

Right, my 2 cents on the cart filler issue. I tried Red Rose teabags. Worked great for 1 day then got all gloopy and stuck together. Nasty, as I kept getting liquid in my mouth. Burning, burning fun. NOT.

So someone else on another filler thread said that they tried the new Lipton Pyramid tea bags. They are made of a fine nylon mesh. Stiff, and the atty doesn't get hot enough to melt the Nylon. Tried them out. Sweeeet! The mesh is nice and stiff and keeps it's shape. Washes out totally clean and rerolls like a dream. Looks to be able to be used at LEAST 5 times. I bag gives 2 cart fills. AND as a bonus the black pearl tea is quite nice. Also, use the teabag material AFTER making the tea. The nylon is just as good as when it's first opened.

The Fluval and polyfill burn. The nylon doesn't. It's stiff and even when washed retains it's strength. My conclusion, try the Lipton Pyramid tea bags. They are MY fill of choice...

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Lika

Kate, I'm glad you brought this up. First of all, I'm not totally satisfied with any of the materials recommended as cart material replacement in the forums. Heck, I'm not even happy with the original material in our carts. Whatever that material is...

That's why I've taken it upon myself to design a completely new dispensing system that could be used to replace all of these wicks/fillers in various cart models. The exception to the rule would be those that have the atomizer and wick contained in one component. This new system will be extremely sanitary, fire proof, melt proof, fray proof, etc. It will be somewhat expensive to manufacture compared to what we're used to in OEM cart fillers but it should last a very long time and of course be reusable via a simple rinse with warm water.

I can't really go into much more detail yet because at this point it's just on paper. Within the next few weeks I should be ready for a few 'beta' testers. Btw, what's a beta tester called when it comes to testing hardware as opposed to software? Guinea pigs? Don't fret though - there should be no safety issues to concern anyone with.

If it all works out to what my schematics suggest this new system could even convert the most devout drippers back to using carts. Wouldn't it just be heaven to have a happy medium between cart topping and dripping via a built in mechanism without all the hassle? Not to mention less stress on the atomizer while holding liquid that is dispensed consistently till the last drop.

Please God let me be a beta tester.

I loved my 510 the first 2 days then the cart material had a taste to it. I tried fluval (fish tanks water polishing pads) I can definetly taste something? yuck
I will buy flamable batting from walmart and try that.
The cart filler and juice delivery seem to be the weak point.
So keep working on that filler system and you'll be a millionare.
I will test them.

Thanks Robert

[Robert]

Originally Posted by vapor trail

That's exactly what I just started doing. I mean like 5 minutes ago. So far it's working great. I'm using a 901. Just pull the filler out of a blank cart, tear off enough of it to fill the atomizer chamber about three fourths of the way, drip directly onto it, put the empty cart on and vape.

If this continues to be as good of a method as it appears to be so far, my vaping experience just got a whole lot better.

I don't understand this? If one little piece of the filler touches my atomizer I start tasting something and you guy are sticking a big wad of filler on the atty?

[edlogic]

works way better than original cart material in my 510
this is from a ball of cooking or craft hemp twine - natural - no wax and no color

i unraveled about 10 inches of the twine into separated very fine fibers - then once i had it really fluffy i just started folding it until i got it to about the right density of fibers

then i pushed it into the cart until it hit bottom then pulled it back out about a half of a millimeter and cut it - so that when i push it back in - it is barely below the level of the end of the cart

i put in 7 drops of ejuice to top it - i figure that is a good measure of how much fiber to space ratio there is in the cart

so far - i have been vaping it steadily for an hour - very good results

will have to keep testing to see how much difference it makes as to how dense to pack it in the cart and how often it needs to be topped off with how many drops etc .

so far seems good - no funny tastes or anything like that

[johnnybravo]

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

For it to meet the California standard, it has to be treated--so I would not use it--it should have a warning on it that if it burns in a fire and you inhale tons of it, it could be harmful or fatal--The stuff you have Jenny is treated--so can it and get some regular stuff--Sun

I didn't read the WHOLE California Bureau of Home Furnishings Technical bulletin #117.
But I think the gist of it is that the poly-fil has gone through extensive testing of the flammability of the stuff under different circumstances. Like I said I didn't read the whole bulletin but I'm inclined to believe its fire retardent free.

[johnnybravo]

And I apologize if this issue has already been addressed.......