Jenny--should say 100% polyester

**Sun Vaporer** · 03-22-2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by jennydotz

I would think flammable would be better, that means you can be sure it's not treated with some chemical. I just looked at mine and it says "meets the flammability requirements of the California Bureau of blablabla. . ." Wonder what that means?

Jenny--look at the package again. If it does not say 100% polyester fiber--do not use it. You do not want to use anything treated. Very easy to find this stuff and the labeling is usuall very good---Sun

**jennydotz** · 03-23-2009, 12:15 AM

Well it says 100% premium polyester, but does that mean it couldn't be "100% premium polyester treated with some chemical so it meets Cal. flammability requirements"?

**Sun Vaporer** · 03-23-2009, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by jennydotz

Well it says 100% premium polyester, but does that mean it couldn't be "100% premium polyester treated with some chemical so it meets Cal. flammability requirements"?

For it to meet the California standard, it has to be treated--so I would not use it--it should have a warning on it that if it burns in a fire and you inhale tons of it, it could be harmful or fatal--The stuff you have Jenny is treated--so can it and get some regular stuff--Sun

**jennydotz** · 03-23-2009, 01:00 AM

Thanks Sun, better safe than sorry. The nerve of these companies! I want a big warning that says "Unsafe for use in a Personal Vaporizer Cartridge"

**Lika** · 03-23-2009, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by jennydotz

Thanks Sun, better safe than sorry. The nerve of these companies! I want a big warning that says "Unsafe for use in a Personal Vaporizer Cartridge"

LOL, wouldn't that be something if all of sudden that was imprinted on big bags of treated polyester fiberfill. Or, better yet, a label that says "Safe for use in Personal Vaporizers" on untreated bags. Anything to make a sale, ya know?

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me once the ecig craze is in full force. Presuming the FDA eventually lets it happen. All the big non-tobacco companies will be trying to get their share of the dough. I'm sure the eyeballs are already watching...

**Lika** · 03-23-2009, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

"The atomization is constantly supplied by the one hundred percent polyester fiber core that has been filled with the specially formulated liquid that wicks the wire mesh bridge"

Thanks for that bit of info, Sun. It's fairly obvious to me (just by observation) that the filler core is polyester but all over the forums people continue to question it. Somehow I've missed the Ruyan quote before until now, thanks again.

I agree that we shouldn't have to shell out additional money for a fresh cart when the old cores becomes over used. I've been rinsing the OEM cores and reusing them since I started with ecigs. But even those tend to reach a point of no return.

So far my favorite substitute is the polyester water filter for fish tanks. I've got a box of it that's lasted a while now. I choose it because it's basically cut, fold and pack for me. Plus I am assuming it's additive free since it's intended for a clean environment for fish.

Still, I don't like using polyester because I know it melts (toxic gasses) at least a little, it frays and may inhibit atomizer production and just gets all funky after a while. Those things can get quite ugly after a few top-offs. Plus it holds liquid that isn't ever wicked. That's a big waste for me since I don't care to squeeze the cores. Every time I wash one out I'm throwing a few drops of gold down the sink which probably isn't good for the environment either. When I've tried saving the juice in the past it appears aged, darker and more concentrated than what I started with. Just not my cuppa juice so-to-speak.

Btw, I'm not discounting the use of polyester as a replacement core filler. It's really about all we have right now that's viable and readily available. I just don't like it for the stated reasons and think we could do better.

**Sun Vaporer** · 03-23-2009, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lika

Thanks for that bit of info, Sun. It's fairly obvious to me (just by observation) that the filler core is polyester but all over the forums people continue to question it. Somehow I've missed the Ruyan quote before until now, thanks again.

Still, I don't like using polyester because I know it melts (toxic gasses) at least a little, it frays and may inhibit atomizer production and just gets all funky after a while. Those things can get quite ugly after a few top-offs. Plus it holds liquid that isn't ever wicked. That's a big waste for me since I don't care to squeeze the cores. Every time I wash one out I'm throwing a few drops of gold down the sink which probably isn't good for the environment either. When I've tried saving the juice in the past it appears aged, darker and more concentrated than what I started with..

Lika --I totally concur with your theory about the toxic gasses--even ever so small and look forward to your work in the area of cores--we are working in the area of atomizer restoration as fast as possible and hope for some results soon that are across the board as these atomizers simple do not have any broken parts upon inspection after they are "allegedly" dead---we conclude that the coil is in fact so coated with residual that it can no longer heat even though the electical current is flowing--an issue we hope to resolve soon----thanks for your efforts and look foward to seeing your results in the arena of the cores---Sun

**Happy Jack** · 03-23-2009, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lika

I can't really go into much more detail yet because at this point it's just on paper. Within the next few weeks I should be ready for a few 'beta' testers. Btw, what's a beta tester called when it comes to testing hardware as opposed to software? Guinea pigs? Don't fret though - there should be no safety issues to concern anyone with.

I volunteer...

**rlorange** · 03-25-2009, 11:11 AM

Forget polyester guys. I now use stainless steel wool! It delivers the liquid better than any synthetic and doesn't wear out. You can completely fill it with direct dripping without removing the steel wool. ALL of the air bubble out between drops in record time

**ZambucaLu** · 03-25-2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by rlorange

Forget polyester guys. I now use stainless steel wool! It delivers the liquid better than any synthetic and doesn't wear out. You can completely fill it with direct dripping without removing the steel wool. ALL of the air bubble out between drops in record time

There was a concern with fibers breaking off, and rust. Where do you get the one you use?
Lu