Boycott US Airways!!!!

[Data4]

Okay, I spoke with a guy at work whose long, convoluted job title roughly translates to "avionics expert". He's an engineer that is head of the group that installs the cockpits on our aircraft. I started with the blanket question, "I've always been curious... why exactly can't some electronic devices be used on a plane?" His answer was based on two categories: Aircraft functionality and passenger comfort.

Essentially, the potential danger to aircraft functionality lies with items that can send and receive wireless communication. Cellphones and other devices capable of wireless networking (PDAs, some laptops, AM, FM, and shortwave radios, newer portable gaming systems with bluetooth or similar features to allow wireless multiplayer play, etc.) have been shown to cause interference with the radio signals sent and received by the aircraft in radio communication and navigation equipment. The FAA takes a very large lean to the side of caution with regard to these devices, even if only one instance out of, say, 10,000 has shown even the slightest effect on instruments that measure altitude, speed, and distance.

As far as passenger comfort goes, this includes using audio/video devices without headphones, watching porn on a screen that can be "incidentally" seen by other passengers, and the like. When I asked what sort of danger an e-cigarette poses (had to explain what it was. Got a positive reaction from him, btw), he said that it's highly unlikely that the electronics in the e-cig would cause any aircraft functionality issues, and that it's likely a passenger comfort issue, for the obvious reason that those who are e-cig ignorant would mistake our toys for the real thing. After all, if it looks like a cigarette, has a red light at the end like a cigarette (yeah, yeah, red ain't the only color), and the user is blowing out what looks like smoke... well, you know the drill.

Aircraft functionality issues are governed by the FAA, while Passenger comfort is governed by the airlines. That means it's more or less the same as "No shoes, no shirt, no service."

As much as it sucks for us, it's a by-product of a free market. A business is free to dictate behaviors of their consumers, within the bounds of the law, while consumers are free to take their patronage elsewhere if they disagree with a business' policies. While I can't speak for those outside of the U.S., there is nothing in our Constitution that guarantees freedom from inconvenience.

That said, I'll certainly be avoiding American Airlines and U.S. Air. Besides, the only reason why I used to fly through Phoenix on my cross country trips back home was because of the awesome Blue Burrito Grill Lounge. I always loved walking in, taking a seat, and having one of the waitstaff greet me with a clean ashtray, brand new pack of matches, and no hint of prejudice towards my habit. I've heard that place, if it's still there, is now non-smoking, like the rest of the airport. Such a shame, too... their Ultimate Margaritas were the ****.

-D4

[THICKFOG]

Cry me a tear, will ya. Some of you will b---h about anything. Is it so hard to have just a little respect for others. I'm not saying you have to bend over backwards for anyone, but be real.. You're in a confined space..Most people don't want you to breath on them, much less having a anything visible come out of your mouth and enter their space.

[Badanswer]

Thick, Spikey asked before she vaped, but then got shut down by a non informed FA on a power trip.

I'd be a little upset too....especially after researching the company policies beforehand.

[THICKFOG]

FA on a power trip,,Pleeaassee,,So if someone has the interest of the majority of the passengers in mind, then they are on a power trip? How about next time when someone wants to vape on a plane they ask for a show of hands, then we'll see how much support they receive.

[Malicedoll]

omg! they wouldn;'t let you use it on the WAY BACK!! wow.. omg.. wtf!

[Malicedoll]

FA on a power trip,,Pleeaassee,,So if someone has the interest of the majority of the passengers in mind, then they are on a power trip? How about next time when someone wants to vape on a plane they ask for a show of hands, then we'll see how much support they receive.

so what is so bad about vaping that puts a majority of the passengers at risk? Before you say.. "nicotine".. please be aware that no nicotine is expelled through Spikey's vaporizer.. so are people placed at risk because of glycerine!? omg!! shut down the baking industry!! let's see how many people are upset over cake icing???

get a grip.. she wasn't doing anything wrong.. and she was allowed to use it on the plane on the way to her destination.. they changed the rules on her on the return flight.. that's wrong and the company should be boycotted..

good thing i come equipped with a leash or i'd be all over your ........

[Wildsky]

good thing i come equipped with a leash or i'd be all over your ........

Let me take that off for you

[Malicedoll]

Let me take that off for you

Thank you Sky! Let me also add that i would be extremely upset and worse if i was told i couldn't use my blood tester or syringes on a flight because one of the flight attendants did not feel it was appropriate for me to have needles or .. god forbid.. expose young children to medical devices.. the lancet might break free and stab someone in the eye or someone might take offense to me jabbing needles into my stomach for fun and enjoyment..

who the heck do flight attendants think they are? god.. this pisses me off..

[Spikey]

Okay, I spoke with a guy at work whose long, convoluted job title roughly translates to "avionics expert". He's an engineer that is head of the group that installs the cockpits on our aircraft. I started with the blanket question, "I've always been curious... why exactly can't some electronic devices be used on a plane?" His answer was based on two categories: Aircraft functionality and passenger comfort


-D4

Data. thanks for confirming that for us. That was kind of the point is that it is just about the comfort of the other passengers... and that means the PASSENGERS are deciding what I can and cannot do on the flight.. not the FA's!

Cry me a tear, will ya. Some of you will b---h about anything. Is it so hard to have just a little respect for others. I'm not saying you have to bend over backwards for anyone, but be real.. You're in a confined space..Most people don't want you to breath on them, much less having a anything visible come out of your mouth and enter their space.

Respect for others? I was exhaling in a hanky so as not to bother anyone... the only reason the FA knew I was using it was because of the light.. I flew home at night so the lights on the plane were off (I left my Dura C at home cause it makes too much vapor).

Thick, Spikey asked before she vaped, but then got shut down by a non informed FA on a power trip.

I'd be a little upset too....especially after researching the company policies beforehand.

Since I had already vaped on 3 planes (all us airways) in 2 weeks and checked the website very throughly I did NOT ask beforehand... but that is the point... I don't need to ask if I can use an electric nosehair trimmer because it is not on the "restricted" list.

FA on a power trip,,Pleeaassee,,So if someone has the interest of the majority of the passengers in mind, then they are on a power trip? How about next time when someone wants to vape on a plane they ask for a show of hands, then we'll see how much support they receive.

Both the people next to me saw the vapor coming out from under the hanky and the people behind me saw the light and they asked what it was and after I explained it they said congrats and were happy for me. 2 of them asked for cards for loved ones. 25% of our country smokes... so we ALL know someone who could be tunred to vaping. Even the other FA asked me for a card... it was just the d*ke b*tch with a pole up her *ss who wanted to give me attitude and then be like "Honey I am sorry.. those are just the rules". I should sue for sexual harrassment.. how DARE she call me "honey"!!!

so what is so bad about vaping that puts a majority of the passengers at risk? Before you say.. "nicotine".. please be aware that no nicotine is expelled through Spikey's vaporizer.. so are people placed at risk because of glycerine!? omg!! shut down the baking industry!! let's see how many people are upset over cake icing???

get a grip.. she wasn't doing anything wrong.. and she was allowed to use it on the plane on the way to her destination.. they changed the rules on her on the return flight.. that's wrong and the company should be boycotted..

good thing i come equipped with a leash or i'd be all over your ........

Yeah!!! It is like you pay by credit card at a store 3 times and then go to do it a 4th time and they say "we only take cash". How can they do that without posting a notice somewhere????

[Malicedoll]

she called you "honey?" omg.. i would have been like.. "excuse me??" well.. after i looked "down" on her.. lol...