American Airlines

[ramblingrose]

I'm flying over 50K miles per year with AA, so the fact that they banned my e-pipe now is a concern for me. The FA I consulted with said that if enough "valued AA flyers" write to them, they may revisit the issue. The letter you posted (thanks!) indicates to me that the chance for any change is slim.

Do you think it might be worth the effort organizing a petition or smth?

We could try, but I doubt it would help. One airline - I think Southwest, but don't recall with certainty - decided to ban use in flight for the simple reason that they don't want to have to deal with complaints of nonsmoking/nonvaping passengers. I suspect that will be the primary reason other airlines will also decided to ban it.

[Jim Davis]

One reason for banning something is passenger comfort. That one is hard to fight.

[epiper]

My argument would be this: most airlines do NOT ban this, so you're losing business (e.g. all the 100s of us that signed the petition) thru your vaping ban.

But I agree that this is very unlikely to succeed, so not worth the effort.

[Jim Davis]

My argument would be this: most airlines do NOT ban this, so you're losing business (e.g. all the 100s of us that signed the petition) thru your vaping ban.

But I agree that this is very unlikely to succeed, so not worth the effort.

You never know until you try. It's possible that if you ask enough questions, someone at AA may reopen the discussion to consider it.

[zero7starz]

Like someone earlier said, there are just some places where vaping would seem off limits just as smoking- a plane would be one of those.

While I understand (and would like to enjoy) vaping does not pose the same health risks as cigarettes, as someone who did not used to smoke I was rather annoyed when someone around me would just light up. Water vapor or not, it would bother other people. And as far as being on a plane, in such enclosed quarters with tons of people, I can and fully respect their ban on vaping. (To make my point, I wish they could put a ban on farting, coughting, sneezing, and snoring on planes as well. However as normal human functions, it is rather difficult to do any such thing!!)

Although I do have two questions (leaving for vacation sooon) is there a known restriction on how many 3ml bottles you can carry on with you? (As a woman I have quite a number of them before adding smoking liquid tot he mix)

It is 100% ok to take the actual device with you as long as it is not in use?

And if for say someone did sneak to the lavatory to vape the smoke dector wouldn't go off?

[Jim Davis]

You can have as many 3oz bottles as you like, as long as they fit comfortably in a quart size zip lock bag. (One ounce is about 30ml.) One bag per person. You *can* put larger bottles in your checked luggage.

You can take your e-cig through security, and onto the plane. They are not illegal, so TSA will not question them. You can board the plane with your e-cig. Some airlines won't let you use them on board. (Just like a cell phone.)

In the lavatory, blow the vapor down at the floor, or into the sink drain if the drain is the suction type (I've done it dozens of times.) Blowing directly into the alarm will most likely set it off.

Have a safe trip
Cheers;
jd

[epiper]

I hereby second everything said by JD. Just to add a couple things.

You can take your e-cig through security, and onto the plane. They are not illegal, so TSA will not question them. You can board the plane with your e-cig. Some airlines won't let you use them on board. (Just like a cell phone.)

Yes, of course. But remember: no sharpies. E.g., I normally use a syringe to refill my cartridges. I put it in the checked luggage.

In the lavatory, blow the vapor down at the floor, or into the sink drain if the drain is the suction type (I've done it dozens of times.) Blowing directly into the alarm will most likely set it off.

I've just tried this several times on 2 different flights. Thank a lot JD for the heads-up on this!! I didn't blow anywhere specifically (just natural vaping) and had no problems.

I wonder if the alarm would go off even if I were to blow directly into it. It's supposed to detect SMOKE, not vapor. But I was too chicken to actually test this.

[Mo JJC]

I hereby second everything said by JD. Just to add a couple things.



Yes, of course. But remember: no sharpies. E.g., I normally use a syringe to refill my cartridges. I put it in the checked luggage.



I've just tried this several times on 2 different flights. Thank a lot JD for the heads-up on this!! I didn't blow anywhere specifically (just natural vaping) and had no problems.

I wonder if the alarm would go off even if I were to blow directly into it. It's supposed to detect SMOKE, not vapor. But I was too chicken to actually test this.

At work we got a new fire alarm system a few years ago. the smoke detectors are set off by anything that blocks the particle beam: dust, steam from a shower, vapor from spray dusters and fog from a theater fog machine.

[PTJD]

Yes, of course. But remember: no sharpies. E.g., I normally use a syringe to refill my cartridges. I put it in the checked luggage.

Disagree, syringe's are acceptable, Diabetics and people with other meds needing shots fly all the time. Look at my avatar, don't usually carry one but had to prove a point (pun intended)!

[ramblingrose]

I wonder if the alarm would go off even if I were to blow directly into it. It's supposed to detect SMOKE, not vapor. But I was too chicken to actually test this.

Ya might want to stay chicken. I think it was Steve from PureSmoker who already tried it, and set the alarm off.