Is vaping becoming as unpopular as smoking? (UK resident)

**Kitty_Howard** · 07-09-2012, 08:54 AM

I am a Vaper (happily) of two years now approx, for health reasons (I liked my smoke!). Lately, though... through experience, such as airports, pubs, café's, clubs, transport, aeroplanes - I am finding I am being refused permission to vape I feel this is unfair (Is it just me?) Vaping is NOT smoking!

I have health issues now, and DON'T want to be forced to stand outside and freeze to death (In winter) with the smokers (summer, I don't mind being outdoors).

I chose vaping as it was as close to smoking as I could get, (and for my health) but mostly because I COULD vape where smoking was banned, especially pubs etc.

The Sun newspaper did an article recently where a reporter TRIED vaping in various locations, and he was told NOT to do it, or PUT OUT of the establishments, EVEN after he explained vaping was not covered by the smoking ban. I think only ONE place allowed him to vape!

I love my vaping, but I am disheartened by all the negative reactions lately. Will vaping soon be covered by the smoking ban as well? Sometimes I feel as if I'd just have been as well sticking to the ciggies!

PS: On a recent bus trip, the driver and I BOTH had to vape outside!

What are other's experiences and views? Mostly looking for those who chose vaping, so that they could beat the smoking ban, not so much those who are happy to vape outdoors like the smokers have to do.

**Chrissie** · 07-09-2012, 12:44 PM

Hi Kitty,

Quite a few of the UK community (including myself) have left comments on that Sun article to try & set the record straight.
You’re nic’d | The Sun |Features
You have to remember though it's the Sun gossippaper we are talking about

So there is a good chance the reporter went out of his way to find places he knew he would be refused. Plus we don't know what his attitude was & of course, he was using a ciggie lookalike.

I didn't choose vaping to beat the smoking ban. I chose it as an alternative to my 50 a day habit that was making me ill. However, I am finding more & more places are happy to allow vaping. And most of the members on AAE-C UK are reporting the same thing. I.e. that pubs etc, that had never heard of e-cigs a few months ago, are now happy to allow vaping.

CAM-VIP have a map of vape friendly pubs -
Campaign for Vaping in Pubs - CommunityWalk

As you can see, there are quite a lot & that's just the ones CAM-VIP have been told of.

**EAVM** · 07-10-2012, 04:33 PM

Just used that link chrissie, it seems the sun have deleted the comments....as it says" comments(0)"
Or maybe its because im using my phone

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**Chrissie** · 07-10-2012, 04:44 PM

EAVM, the comments are still showing for me - in fact there are new ones since I last looked

**EAVM** · 07-10-2012, 04:56 PM

Will check and have a little read later on my laptop when the little ones gone to bed

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**DaveP** · 07-10-2012, 05:07 PM

I know this is the UK forum, but it's not different in America. People don't understand ecigs. All they know is the hype from the 2009 FDA quickie analysis of one seized brand that revealed 8ng/dl carcinogens (same as nicotine gum) in ONE sample and a TRACE of diethylene glycol in that same sample. This test has become the byword for the news because there are few out there and this one is the FDA, who should be the unbiased leader in safety.

Until we have unbiased and respected testing of ecigs in a wide range of products, a shadow will remain on vapers. Non-smokers who are tobacco haters look for reasons to ban anything that resembles smoking. Smoker dislike is almost a religion in America. The only thing we have is the agreement that the outside is free territory, unless the establishment bans smoking on its private property.

Stealth vaping has become an art to the point that even I don't catch other vapers when I go out. They must be hiding it well. I know what to look for. I think we are still in small numbers compared to the population, of which only 22% are smokers in the US.

**cardboardcutout** · 07-10-2012, 07:19 PM

like your les paul with good old soap bars ,is that a gold top mate ?
dont ask just vape,i vape everywhere and dont care.

**adrianb10** · 07-10-2012, 07:36 PM

Agree with cardboard...we should not hide and stealth , stand and vape...

**Em Ell Kay** · 07-10-2012, 07:38 PM

i vape everywhere, but I do ask first and I offer up "its not part of the smoking ban" if you say its not covered, i noticed people tend to confuse that and mean it is banned.

I vape in bingo halls, pubs, restaraunts, in town, in taxis...not on the bus though!