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vt100 · 09-02-2009, 01:37 AM

I'm a Hoosier, for about 20 years anyway. Living in Porter, in Northwest Indiana. Been vapin for about a month now. Are there any vaping groups that you're aware of Lacey?

LaceyUnderall · 09-02-2009, 02:13 AM

Welcome VT!

Not that I am aware of... but that's why I started this thread... in hopes that enough Hoosiers would make their presence known and possibly start meeting up with other area vapers... or at least for us all to get to know each other a bit better

jwhite · 09-04-2009, 03:43 PM

Hello from Handcuff county!! OH.. I mean Hancock county...

Glad to see I'm not the only vaper in the state!

LaceyUnderall · 09-04-2009, 03:45 PM

Jwhite! You are just around the corner from me

Marion county

jwhite · 09-04-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaceyUnderall

Jwhite! You are just around the corner from me

Marion county

I was born and raised on the east side of Indy, although I wouldn't go to my old neighborhood anymore.. LOL
I hang out in Fishers quite often nowadays

LaceyUnderall · 09-04-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhite

I was born and raised on the east side of Indy, although I wouldn't go to my old neighborhood anymore.. LOL
I hang out in Fishers quite often nowadays

Born and raised in the Broad Ripple area.

Now that I am older and have moved around the country a bit... so glad to have settled here for a bit. Such a great town. Too bad I didn't realize it so much when I was a youngin.

LaceyUnderall · 09-10-2009, 05:12 PM

Indiana/Illinois/Michigan

SmokeyJoe started a subforum for campaigning for us all.

Sherid and I were having a conversation this morning regarding who would be best to send our information to in order to help get our message out regarding the electronic cigarette smoking bans that will be and currently are popping up in states.

Sending our information to people who have already made up their minds that the ecig should be banned is possibly a futile effort.

So... we have begun the quest to find groups who stand for our rights as consumers for choice, as well as groups who believe that while smoking might not be the best choice for health, there are products on the market that help reduce these health effects and the rights and freedom to choose such products should be upheld.

With all of that said, I did find one organization that might be worth Hoosiers writing letters to, as noted above.

If you know of any other organizations that might be interested in adding to the list, please feel free to do so. And if you find other states, that information would be an excellent add... whether you are from that state or not.

I am hoping the campaigning subforum can become a one stop shop for those who are looking to write letters and make contact, on behalf of themselves and other consumers.

LaceyUnderall · 10-06-2009, 01:52 PM

Hello All!

I just wanted to check in and let everyone know what is happening here in Indianapolis. For those of you who are familiar with Marion County, the City-County Council will be voting to extend the "Smoke Free Indy Act" to include electronic cigarettes. This ban is a complete blanket smoking ban, not allowing smoking in basically any establishment and must be at least 25 feet from all windows and doors.

So, if you are familiar with Broad Ripple area for instance, then you would be able to visualize that in order to smoke your PV, you must stand in the middle of 62nd Street in order to be 25 feet away from ANY establishment. Yes. They would rather you smoke your PV in oncoming Saturday night, drunk traffic

All joking aside, here is the pertinent information that we must be willing to work hard to change:

The proposal is: NO 371 and can be found here: http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Pro...ages/home.aspx

From the proposal here is where ecigs are specifically noted:

Page 2: (j) "Smoking" means the carrying or holding of a lighted cigarette, cigar, pipe, or any other lighted smoking equipment, the use of an electronic cigarette (also known as an e-cigarette), or the inhalation or exhalation of smoke from any lighted smoking equipment. "Smoking" does not include the burning of incense.

The only places exempt from the ban are private residences that are not licensed child care, adult day care, or health care facilities, and any vehicle used by an employee while in the service of an employer when the vehicle is occupied only by that employee, and the vehicle is not used by other employees at any other time.

Also: Smoking shall be prohibited within twenty-five feet of an entrance or opening to an enclosed space where smoking is prohibited.

Upon adoption this ban goes into full effect immediately.

They plan to vote Monday, October 22nd. Public Hearing is October 14th.

Here are some other things to note:

Councillors Hunter, Mansfield, Malone and Evans have introduced this ordinance. What is actually very interesting is that in 2005, Angela Mansfield co-authored and co-sponsored Indianapolis' first "Smokefree Air Ordinance". Thus far, I cannot find anything further on Evans, Hunter, and Malone regarding smoking. Still looking. This ordinance would ammend her original "Smokefree Air Ordinance" to include the ecig AND to go back and eliminate all of the establishments like bars, bowling alleys, etc that were exempted in the first ordinance.

Also to note: Evans and Mansfield are both Dems and Malone and Hunter are both Republicans. Interesting. The city council consists of 15 republicans, 13 democrats and 1 libertarian.

So! If you live in Marion County (or Surrounding Counties because we know this spreads like wildfire) and would like to help me... please feel free to PM. I have already contacted the Indiana Alcohol Beverage Commission, who opposes this ban. They have 150 business owners who are looking to have this entire thing thrown out, but for good measure, we need to ensure that this does not become an ecig ban.

If you are interested in helping in any way, please let me know via PM. The goal is to get the important information to the right Councillors so that they can strike the electronic cigarette from the proposal. We will also be getting information on what is required to speak at the public hearing. Before hand, I would like to make sure that each of the Councillors in the committee get a hard copy of our message, reports, etc and then I believe we would each get two minutes at the public hearing... so if 3 or 4 of us went, then we would have enough time to reiterate that message through our 6-8 minutes.

Time to move! We have less than a week to get our stuff together!

sbuck · 10-06-2009, 03:07 PM

OK Lacy, I just joined this group and can post here now. YEAH! Thanks for the help. I will PM you with my e-mail.

Susan

LaceyUnderall · 10-06-2009, 03:10 PM

Sbuck - YEAH!!!!

09-02-2009, 02:13 AM	#32
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Welcome VT! Not that I am aware of... but that's why I started this thread... in hopes that enough Hoosiers would make their presence known and possibly start meeting up with other area vapers... or at least for us all to get to know each other a bit better __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

09-04-2009, 03:45 PM	#34
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Jwhite! You are just around the corner from me Marion county __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

09-10-2009, 05:12 PM	#37
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Hello Hoosiers! Indiana/Illinois/Michigan SmokeyJoe started a subforum for campaigning for us all. Sherid and I were having a conversation this morning regarding who would be best to send our information to in order to help get our message out regarding the electronic cigarette smoking bans that will be and currently are popping up in states. Sending our information to people who have already made up their minds that the ecig should be banned is possibly a futile effort. So... we have begun the quest to find groups who stand for our rights as consumers for choice, as well as groups who believe that while smoking might not be the best choice for health, there are products on the market that help reduce these health effects and the rights and freedom to choose such products should be upheld. With all of that said, I did find one organization that might be worth Hoosiers writing letters to, as noted above. If you know of any other organizations that might be interested in adding to the list, please feel free to do so. And if you find other states, that information would be an excellent add... whether you are from that state or not. I am hoping the campaigning subforum can become a one stop shop for those who are looking to write letters and make contact, on behalf of themselves and other consumers. __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

10-06-2009, 01:52 PM	#38
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Hello All! I just wanted to check in and let everyone know what is happening here in Indianapolis. For those of you who are familiar with Marion County, the City-County Council will be voting to extend the "Smoke Free Indy Act" to include electronic cigarettes. This ban is a complete blanket smoking ban, not allowing smoking in basically any establishment and must be at least 25 feet from all windows and doors. So, if you are familiar with Broad Ripple area for instance, then you would be able to visualize that in order to smoke your PV, you must stand in the middle of 62nd Street in order to be 25 feet away from ANY establishment. Yes. They would rather you smoke your PV in oncoming Saturday night, drunk traffic All joking aside, here is the pertinent information that we must be willing to work hard to change: The proposal is: NO 371 and can be found here: http://www.indy.gov/eGov/Council/Pro...ages/home.aspx From the proposal here is where ecigs are specifically noted: Page 2: (j) "Smoking" means the carrying or holding of a lighted cigarette, cigar, pipe, or any other lighted smoking equipment, the use of an electronic cigarette (also known as an e-cigarette), or the inhalation or exhalation of smoke from any lighted smoking equipment. "Smoking" does not include the burning of incense. The only places exempt from the ban are private residences that are not licensed child care, adult day care, or health care facilities, and any vehicle used by an employee while in the service of an employer when the vehicle is occupied only by that employee, and the vehicle is not used by other employees at any other time. Also: Smoking shall be prohibited within twenty-five feet of an entrance or opening to an enclosed space where smoking is prohibited. Upon adoption this ban goes into full effect immediately. They plan to vote Monday, October 22nd. Public Hearing is October 14th. Here are some other things to note: Councillors Hunter, Mansfield, Malone and Evans have introduced this ordinance. What is actually very interesting is that in 2005, Angela Mansfield co-authored and co-sponsored Indianapolis' first "Smokefree Air Ordinance". Thus far, I cannot find anything further on Evans, Hunter, and Malone regarding smoking. Still looking. This ordinance would ammend her original "Smokefree Air Ordinance" to include the ecig AND to go back and eliminate all of the establishments like bars, bowling alleys, etc that were exempted in the first ordinance. Also to note: Evans and Mansfield are both Dems and Malone and Hunter are both Republicans. Interesting. The city council consists of 15 republicans, 13 democrats and 1 libertarian. So! If you live in Marion County (or Surrounding Counties because we know this spreads like wildfire) and would like to help me... please feel free to PM. I have already contacted the Indiana Alcohol Beverage Commission, who opposes this ban. They have 150 business owners who are looking to have this entire thing thrown out, but for good measure, we need to ensure that this does not become an ecig ban. If you are interested in helping in any way, please let me know via PM. The goal is to get the important information to the right Councillors so that they can strike the electronic cigarette from the proposal. We will also be getting information on what is required to speak at the public hearing. Before hand, I would like to make sure that each of the Councillors in the committee get a hard copy of our message, reports, etc and then I believe we would each get two minutes at the public hearing... so if 3 or 4 of us went, then we would have enough time to reiterate that message through our 6-8 minutes. Time to move! We have less than a week to get our stuff together! __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer Last edited by LaceyUnderall; 10-06-2009 at 11:55 PM.

10-06-2009, 03:07 PM	#39
sbuck Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48	OK Lacy, I just joined this group and can post here now. YEAH! Thanks for the help. I will PM you with my e-mail. Susan __________________

09-02-2009, 01:37 AM	#31
vt100 Jerhume Brunnen-G! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 102	I'm a Hoosier, for about 20 years anyway. Living in Porter, in Northwest Indiana. Been vapin for about a month now. Are there any vaping groups that you're aware of Lacey?

09-04-2009, 03:43 PM	#33
jwhite Lurking Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greenfield, IN Posts: 47	Hello from Handcuff county!! OH.. I mean Hancock county... Glad to see I'm not the only vaper in the state!

10-06-2009, 03:10 PM	#40
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Sbuck - YEAH!!!! __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

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