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    you might notice some mild ph changes secondary to no longer retaining as much carbon dioxide due to the lack of smoke in the e cigs. that would be very transient however becuase between your kidneys and lungs your body keeps your ph pretty stable. From whati have read on the subject so far the ingrediants are pretty safe. there is a wide array of drug interactions with the polyethylene glycol, but you would have to be more specific with a drug to ask but mostly with blood pressure medications and antidepressants/antipsycotics.

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    You know I was thinking about something you said..About not recomending E-cigs until all other stop smoking methods have been tried (or something like that). Why? Those blasted things don't work! At best they are short term, at worst they have about a million side effects. As far as we know after being on the market around 5 years..e-cigs=no side effects. At least not of the suicide/depression kind.

    As a side note: Why do we care one way or another if this man is a Dr. or not? For all that goes I don't know if any of you are who you say you are. I just took it on face value and would never take medical advice on a forum..heck I barely take it face to face from my Dr.!
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    not to start a firestorm on this particular thread, but the reason i recomend the other things first is twofold. number one all the others are fda approved(ducks to avoid the verbal assalt). to recomend things that are not approved has a lot of risks in the health profession, not to mention i have seen a lot of good results especially with chantix. plus once you have tried a couple of the above i know that the patient is signifigantly motivated to use this product and have it work for them. i know theese work becuase i use them myself...just got my v4l usb passthrough today as a matter of fact, and i am loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryKay View Post
    As a side note: Why do we care one way or another if this man is a Dr. or not? For all that goes I don't know if any of you are who you say you are. I just took it on face value and would never take medical advice on a forum..heck I barely take it face to face from my Dr.!
    For the record MK, I'm with you. I'm not going to take medical advice on an e-cig BB so in reality it doesn't matter.
    I am however an Italian from New Jersey, so let's just say I don't like when people try to "pull the wool" over my eyes. That's all......I was born with it and I can't help it or change it.

    PS: I'm really Angeline Jolie!

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    No firestorm in here. Having tried those other things and with a hubby who is STILL trying them..I guess I didn't understand. As my hubby says you have to check all the boxes. (Military for going thru the motions).
    The FDA may not be our friend in E-cigs..but they do a lot of good in other areas (when they aren't letting mushrooms, cows, spinach and diet pills slip past them).
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    CatMommy, quit lying, I'm Angeline Jolie!

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    Ha! Caught you both! It's AngelinA...lol
    besides who wants poofy lips and that dufus doughboy Brad?
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    Welcome Doc., good to have someone from the medical comunity join up!
    As a paitent that battles with depresion, the drugs were not an option for me! I tried the patch, I tried the gum, I went almost a year cold turkey, but relapsed with stress.
    I don't care for the drugs, I don't care to use the drugs, afer years of dealing with the side effects, splitting migranes, no sleep, sleep all the time, no sex drive, overdrive sex drive and the wonderful opertunity of relapsing with even more suicidal tendancies and having to get your doctors to believe you, I'll deal with depression thank you!
    Sure, they work on some, but I'm really not comfortable suggesting to ANYONE that they try that aproach!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheryl View Post
    CatMommy, quit lying, I'm Angeline Jolie!
    Damn, I thought I was Angelina Jolie.

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    You forget, we've seen your pic.

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