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    GP SPHEROID TIPS & TRICKS


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    GP SPHEROID TIPS & TRICKS

    By Qorax

    Spheroid: Time to Rebuild
    A Pictorial on Twin SBS Microcoil with S'n'C Yarn



    Coils Prepared and pre-Joined


    Coils Mounted on deck


    Wires Trimmed and Resistance Checked


    Coils Test Fired


    Preparation S'n'C Yarn


    NOTE: One strand from the yarn is removed for easy wicking. Else, it'd smother the wick and there's be dry-hits. Also, S'nC yarn needs pre-boiling for 20 minutes or more, to remove some of its cottony taste. Details of the procedure is >HERE<

    Yarn Inserted and Size of the Wick Loop


    Wick Juiced up and Tank filled


    Assembling the Tank


    Build Test Fired






    How do I look?


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    CAUTION: This being a sub-Ohm build it is NOT Recommended to be used with the Piccolo or any 16mm mod. 14xxx series batteries cannot take the load of continuos excessive discharge. Pls note that I'm firing it with a Paps-X in 18650 mode, which has a 30A Sony battery inside.
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    GP HERON TIPS & TRICKS

    By Idaholandho

    DUAL MICROCOIL BUILD

    Using .30ga 7/8 wrap on 1/16 micro jig with SnC cotton. I originally built the coils vertically. I decided to slant the coils ever so slight to "aim" the wicks towards the wick hole in the cap. The wicks fit perfectly through the top cap without choking them or too much "room"
    Here are a few pics and I will not put this down for days. Perfect heat, great GVC flavor and good times.

    It absolutely wicks and is my best build. The juice transfer from the fluff to the wick is incredible from the Heron.


    I left 1 cm on each laying on the deck to soak every drop!



    Thank you again Perseas.
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    GP PnB (Polish & Brush) ADAPTOR TIPS & TRICKS

    By Idaholandho

    I thought I would do a quick and easy pictorial on polishing a GP top cap with the PnB tool.

    I believe everyone with any skill level should buy a PnB as they make polishing very easy.

    Here is the top cap that I chose. It has swirls from atomizers and a couple of marks that I have no idea where they came from.


    Preparing the top cap, I remove the telescoping pins and the insulator from the underside of cap.


    Next, screw the male 1/2 of the PnB in the underside of cap


    Pick your drill of choice. I prefer a heavier drill than my Dremel as to me it is easier to sabilize the heft of the drill. Many will find a Dremel much easier due to the smaller size.


    I use wet dry Gator sandpaper for the job and soak the small pieces of in water for 5-10 minutes prior to use and continue to dip in water when polishing. Here are the grits I use consistantly(320 - 2000 grit)


    NOTE - I prefer to start with the lowest grit and move up in sequence. I do not move from 320 straight to 2000 as I found it sometimes gives the ss an inconsistent finish.

    Folding the sandpaper in 1/2, I hold it firm on the cap and only use one finger for slight pressure. I use the drill ad medium rpm's and very slowly move the sandpaper back and forth on one side of the center hole. Remember to keep the sandpaper wet.
    If you want to keep your fingers clean wear some latex gloves!


    Going through each grit shown above and finishing with the 2000k grit the entire process took approximately 3-4 minutes

    Here are the results


    Make sure and pick up your PnB from VapourArt or Domo Vapor Co
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    GP HERON TIPS & TRICKS

    By Idaholandho

    GP Fam, I would like to follow up on a couple of things with my build and the Heron.

    First, I love the Heron. With the amount of fluff I am using I have no issues with filling it with 4-4.5ml of 50/50 juice. It seems to never run out!
    On my last build I used the loops as seen. I decided to cut the loops a bit off center and leave one side of the 2 strands of ekowool a bit longer. I placed the shorter side into the juice well and threaded the longer through the hole on the top cap as shown.

    NOTE - wrapping 2 seperate strands of medium together and placing two through the cap and two in the well mimics this method.


    Perseas mentioned that the wick dimension through the cap hole makes a wicking difference, and he is correct! So far 2 SnC strands, 2-3mm silica and 2mm strands of ekowool wicks FANTASTIC!.

    One last thing and I will include in blog that has had little attention is the AIR FLOW CONTROL!
    What a great addition.the AFC ring is simple, moves freely but tight enough that it will not move unless moved. The polished ring finishes the base of the Heron off with tasteful beauty. It is amazing and will be loved by the masses of vapors that begged for it on the Spheroid. Although I am in the camp that likes a bit of a tighter draw as the Spheroid offers, I happily set the AFC on the Heron with two of the holes open leaving one closed.


    The AFC needs to be talked about more!
    I am still in love with the Heron and will be picking another up because as Perseas knows D. And she gets her way with GP and will soon be negotiating for mine .
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    GP HERON TIPS & TRICKS

    Unpacking GP Heron (Italian)

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    GP HERON UPDATE

    Mine arrived yesterday and I've been experimenting with it for a while now and sufficiently vaping way too much as a result ;O)

    I'm extremely happy with it overall - just need to suss out exactly how much filler material is required etc... and I haven't tried a cotton micro coil build just yet.

    HOWEVER - there is one thing that is Really irritating me about it so far.. and that is that it gurgles and I absolutely hate gurgling atomisers - they really get on my nerves.. but not just hat - after a few vapes on it the condensate builds up to such a point that when you take subsequent vapes from it the mere act of sucking up the vapour causes juice to be spat into your mouth and there's a horrible gurgling - which necessitates you removing the cap and cleaning out the inner bore of the mouthpiece tube.

    This cannot always be resolved with just giving it a puff down the tube to clear it out either - I know I have tried that - sometimes you can give it a good blast down there and it won't clear out the condensate..

    It does get really bad - if you take the filler section off and suck gently through it it'll behave just like an old penny whistle!!!

    I really like this atomiser but it's a pain in the .... to have to partially disassemble it every twenty minutes to clean out the bore in order to enjoy your vape.

    I've had a good look at the atty and I've identified what I think is the problem..

    I have to ask Perseas - is there any specific requirement for this part of the mouthpiece pipe? - Inside the main bore of the pipe there is a smaller bore section approximately 1mm smaller than the main bore.. is there a special reason for this section - or is this maybe an incomplete machining process?

    I ask because it is this section causing all the problems..



    You see after a while condensate builds up in the mouth piece - I have never had an atomiser where this does not occur - In fact I think it's impossible to vape and not generate condensate in some form or another.. I have a few spheroids and condensate occurs in the drip tip well of tem also - but this gurgling never occurs and the obvious answer is that the spheroid bore is a 3mm bore approximately all the way down and basically condensate gets to run down the sides of the bore --- BUT crucially the bore itself is wide enough for the meniscus / surface tension properties of the juice to not take hold..

    The smaller 2mm inner bore is small enough that the juices cohesion properties makes it just stick there causing a partial fluid lock - which then you have to suck later vapes through that juice barrier and you get bubbling and gurgling as a result.. and it gets to the point when you can have quite a lot of juice condensate pooling above that section to overcome



    I'm going to try boring mine out with a suitable drill bit to see if that gets rids of the problem - I'll report back if it does..

    OK - I took mine out to 2.95 mm - which is slightly smaller than the 3mm bore - for me this has TOTALLY solved the problem!

    No more gurgling..

    No more juice in the mouth and the only side effect is that the draw becomes marginally less tight - but thanks to the excellent design on the adjustable airflow that is not a problem at all.....

    Now this has become my favourite atomiser by far...

    A slight word of warning though - anyone having similar issues - do not attempt what I just did unless you know you are competent enough to do it..

    I've got many years of mechanical engineering experience and a certain level of ....-suredness that comes with it - to let me do this with a battery operated drill - a good drill bit and just holding them in my hands!

    If you have or know someone with a lather who's competent enough to not mark the atomiser then that would be the best option..

    DarthPistachio



    Thank you very much for this detailed analysis!

    You're right, although the reasons for gurgling are many times the way the filler is putted causing over-wicking and/or a weak battery that creates partial vaporisation and condensation is gathering inside the bell. We designed this section for compressing the vapour further, but the gurgling shows that we weren't right. We shall produce an updated bell the next weeks and we'll send it as a replacement to the owners of the Heron. I strongly suggest to the Heron owners to send us NO email about it, when we shall send it, if we can put it inside an order, etc.
    The sooner we make it, the soonest we'll send it to the initial owners at no cost on behalf of them.

    Perseas
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    GP HERON TIPS & TRICKS

    By Downtrodn

    Ribbon build

    So I thought I'd give the included ribbon wire a try.
    Holy crap! Best build yet. Here's some pics... film at eleven.

    5/6 Wrap .8 ribbon @ about 1ohm, cotton ball about 28mm on either side of the coil.



    Push cotton down into the well as this will help soak up any excess juice and keep it from seeping down the airhole.



    Wicks are still tall enough to reach the filler. I'm not using the cotton cap.



    Enjoy

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    GP HERON TIPS & TRICKS

    By Idaholandho

    Quote Originally Posted by newyork13 View Post
    So now, Heron questions.

    It was extremely difficult to take it apart to give it its first bath. The segments bound by the o-rings just wouldn't come apart. I finally put it in the freezer, and using rubber grippy kitchen gloves it came apart.

    Question one is, when I put it back together should the o-rings be lubed a bit with some juice?

    Question two is, I'm going to do a first build with the standard loop as shown in a couple of places in the VapourArt website. The visuals seem to be using wire. Should I use the ribbon which came with the Heron, or the 28g Kanthal which I have? If I use ribbon, do I need to adjust the set up for ribbon?
    Depending on your comfort level feel free to use the ribbon. It is important that of you are familiar with the resistance of ribbon or wire size that you will use. To be a step ahead of even some experienced vapors is to learn ohm's law prior to building.
    Many vapors just do a search to see what others are wrapping to "copy" their coil ohms. Learning the specs of wire dimension and the length needed to find your sweet spot is imperative aside from the fact that you will learn and be able to teach the next newyork on the thread. Learn how to hit your sweet spot with any gauge wire based on wire length(wraps).
    Here is a great calculator and chart that will help.

    Steam Engine | free calculators for your vaping endeavors

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0

    Ribbon can be used in an overlapping position or in a standard coil fashion. Many will say ribbon is superior than regular wire, I am one.
    It seems to cover more surface area and heats more surface area of the wick.



    Same coil



    GL my Martini drinking friend.
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