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    When I hear people talk about "rattlesnaking" I think of the huge flavor that comes from those big pops.

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    Yep, the rattlesnake effect is nothing like the snap, crackle and pop of juice in an atomizing device. The 33hz chip APVs will do that too. Snap, crackle and pop is not only heard by the vaper but felt in the mouth, too.
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    This is a bunch of bull.You are telling me my vamo does not vape good because it's not a provari?. All i can say is that i can't tell the difference from my vamo and unregulated mods one bit and a lot of people on this forum agree.

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    Real men vape rattlesnakes. Smooth vaping is for sissies.
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    Oh, jeez. Not this again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbill View Post
    This is a bunch of bull.You are telling me my vamo does not vape good because it's not a provari?. All i can say is that i can't tell the difference from my vamo and unregulated mods one bit and a lot of people on this forum agree.
    I sure don't. I can tell if a Vamo V2 is in PWM mode or RMS mode just by the sensations in the vape. I don't have to look at the display to know what mode it's running in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketpunk View Post
    Oh, jeez. Not this again...
    Yep...this again.


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    Just for the sake of clarity...there is a HUGE different between the terms PWM and a Pulsed Output. PWM is a function of the regulator; a method of controlling voltage. A pulsed output is just that; On-Off-On-Off-On-Off.

    ALL modern VV and VW devices use PWM as a means to give us variable voltage/wattage, but not all of them have a pulsed output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickajho View Post
    I sure don't. I can tell if a Vamo V2 is in PWM mode or RMS mode just by the sensations in the vape. I don't have to look at the display to know what mode it's running in.
    LOL. The only difference between PWM and RMS is how the voltage setting is mapped to the duty cycle. For any given RMS setting, there's a PWM setting which produces the same output. You're noticing a difference in the actual power, not the mode. RMS mode is more like VW (but it doesn't consider the resistance of the coil, like VW), it's logarithmic rather than linear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rader2146 View Post
    ]ALL modern VV and VW devices use PWM as a means to give us variable voltage/wattage, but not all of them have a pulsed output.
    That's misleading. Although most boost/buck converters use PWM input for regulation, the output of the main stage is a modified triangle wave, not a PWM square wave as is being discussed. There's also an output capacitor which makes the method used by the control loop insignificant to the output, so why even bring it up?
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