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rocketvapor · 11-06-2009, 11:50 PM

Fort Hood massacre, Orlando shooting, poor little Somer Thompson, 11 bodies in Cleveland, unemployment, H1N1, and on and on............

From Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire":

Birth Control
Ho Chi Minh
Richard Nixon back again
Moonshot
Woodstock
Watergate
Punk Rock
Begin
Reagan
Palestine
Terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran
Russians in Afghanistan
Wheel Of Fortune
Sally Ride
Heavy Metal
Suicide
Foreign debts
Homeless vets
AIDS
Crack
Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shores
China's under martial law
Rock and Roller
Cola Wars
I can't take it anymore

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it but we tried to fight it

These are tough times, but if you live long enough, it's just deja vu all over again.

MaryKay · 11-07-2009, 12:57 AM

Amen on that Rocket! I was not at all surprised about the shooting today. Moneky see monkey do. I knew some other nutcase would jump in. I wouldn't be surprised if in other state tomorrow it happens again. The guy today sounds just like my ex SIL. Scary that!

rocketvapor · 11-07-2009, 01:29 AM

Re-posted in The Lounge...........

Luv2CUSmile · 11-09-2009, 12:54 AM

So true, & as always a powerful song- kind of scary when it is all true and coming back again...- What a message...
& I am still speechless over the recent events- We are still waiting to hear of all the soldiers- Ft Bragg soldiers were all accounted for though- still a few we'd like to hear about though...

rocketvapor · 11-10-2009, 12:01 AM

I suspect the fall-out from this is going to be HUGE! The Army looks incompetent, the public is confused, and the poor grunts are left scratching their heads thinking, "If I can't trust a commissioned officer, and a doctor to boot, who CAN I trust?"

I can see patriotic, decent Muslin soldiers getting their asses kicked on a regular basis, just for good measure, and the brass powerless to stop it. And, yes, there are Muslims in this country, and in our military, who are appalled by this man's cowardly actions.

On the other hand, today is the 20th anniversay of the fall of the Berlin Wall. As someone who grew up during the Cold War, and thought I'd never see this, it does foster hope.

Luv2CUSmile · 11-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Ft Bragg is cracking down even harder right now since the incident and I hate to say, yes, we may see some racist attacks happen w/in our own men & women... Such a shame- But it is hitting real close to home and no one is feeling safe no matter where they go...
I haven't watched any recent reports but I want to know this man's motivation- He is alive and I know they will be asking him many questions...
I hope our people ban together and when I see "our people" I am speaking of all Americans- but yeah, especially the military... They have to be able to trust each other, this is not helping I am sure.
I don't know if there is any connection to the Major's religious beliefs or not- I don't want to speculate... I hope well, in best of hopes anyway since the deed is done, is that it had nothing to do with his religion or his name and he just cracked under pressure...
Well, not to start this up in here- My heart goes out to the soldiers and their families right now...

rocketvapor · 11-10-2009, 02:06 AM

I was in the military for 20 years, and for the last 15 or so, the anti-Muslim sentiment has been getting more and more rampant.

Hey - not for nothing - I lost 5 friends in a terrorist attack, but emotion is a killer in battle. You HAVE to divorce yourself from your raw emotions, or they'll eat you alive.

As we all saw last week.

11-06-2009, 11:50 PM	#1
rocketvapor Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rockledge, FL Posts: 317	Sound Familiar??? Fort Hood massacre, Orlando shooting, poor little Somer Thompson, 11 bodies in Cleveland, unemployment, H1N1, and on and on............ From Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire": Birth Control Ho Chi Minh Richard Nixon back again Moonshot Woodstock Watergate Punk Rock Begin Reagan Palestine Terror on the airline Ayatollah's in Iran Russians in Afghanistan Wheel Of Fortune Sally Ride Heavy Metal Suicide Foreign debts Homeless vets AIDS Crack Bernie Goetz Hypodermics on the shores China's under martial law Rock and Roller Cola Wars I can't take it anymore We didn't start the fire It was always burning since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it but we tried to fight it These are tough times, but if you live long enough, it's just deja vu all over again.

11-07-2009, 12:57 AM	#2
MaryKay Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St. Cloud Florida Posts: 3,737	Amen on that Rocket! I was not at all surprised about the shooting today. Moneky see monkey do. I knew some other nutcase would jump in. I wouldn't be surprised if in other state tomorrow it happens again. The guy today sounds just like my ex SIL. Scary that! __________________ Mary, free:4-17-09 The Women's Room & Wrecked & Bonkers Last edited by MaryKay; 11-07-2009 at 02:52 AM.

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11-07-2009, 01:29 AM	#3
rocketvapor Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rockledge, FL Posts: 317	Re-posted in The Lounge...........

11-09-2009, 12:54 AM	#4
Luv2CUSmile Super Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NC Posts: 728	So true, & as always a powerful song- kind of scary when it is all true and coming back again...- What a message... & I am still speechless over the recent events- We are still waiting to hear of all the soldiers- Ft Bragg soldiers were all accounted for though- still a few we'd like to hear about though...

11-10-2009, 12:01 AM	#5
rocketvapor Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rockledge, FL Posts: 317	I suspect the fall-out from this is going to be HUGE! The Army looks incompetent, the public is confused, and the poor grunts are left scratching their heads thinking, "If I can't trust a commissioned officer, and a doctor to boot, who CAN I trust?" I can see patriotic, decent Muslin soldiers getting their asses kicked on a regular basis, just for good measure, and the brass powerless to stop it. And, yes, there are Muslims in this country, and in our military, who are appalled by this man's cowardly actions. On the other hand, today is the 20th anniversay of the fall of the Berlin Wall. As someone who grew up during the Cold War, and thought I'd never see this, it does foster hope.

11-10-2009, 01:45 AM	#6
Luv2CUSmile Super Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NC Posts: 728	Ft Bragg is cracking down even harder right now since the incident and I hate to say, yes, we may see some racist attacks happen w/in our own men & women... Such a shame- But it is hitting real close to home and no one is feeling safe no matter where they go... I haven't watched any recent reports but I want to know this man's motivation- He is alive and I know they will be asking him many questions... I hope our people ban together and when I see "our people" I am speaking of all Americans- but yeah, especially the military... They have to be able to trust each other, this is not helping I am sure. I don't know if there is any connection to the Major's religious beliefs or not- I don't want to speculate... I hope well, in best of hopes anyway since the deed is done, is that it had nothing to do with his religion or his name and he just cracked under pressure... Well, not to start this up in here- My heart goes out to the soldiers and their families right now...

11-10-2009, 02:06 AM	#7
rocketvapor Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rockledge, FL Posts: 317	I was in the military for 20 years, and for the last 15 or so, the anti-Muslim sentiment has been getting more and more rampant. Hey - not for nothing - I lost 5 friends in a terrorist attack, but emotion is a killer in battle. You HAVE to divorce yourself from your raw emotions, or they'll eat you alive. As we all saw last week.