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    Thanks a lot for the replies guys! Some very interesting stuff to be reading here

    To be honest I have every intention of keeping some 18mg around, I know myself well enough to know that sometimes I can get a bit excited about things and not think of the future!

    I've been doing well though, one puff on the 18mg with lung inhale, and about 4 without lung inhale each day, still have absolutely no desire to smoke an analogue and if it hasn't happened by now I doubt it will, this e-cig is really making this all a lot easier, I ordered in a load of 0mg nicely flavoured e-liquid, just waiting for them to arrive, I'm going to stick to the 0mg as much as I can, try to fight back the cravings, but if things gets way too bad then I guess I'll have to get back to the 18mg for a puff or two
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    Let us know what your results are. Now I am curious too. I may include a zero nic bottle in my next juice order......

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    You can use 0 nic liquid as long as you don't care that you won't have any throat hit (inhaled feel of smoking). It is like vaping air. But that's why we are all different. It might work fine for you. But more than the so-called addictive qualities of nicotine, it's the no throat hit that is the biggest problem in trying to move to 0 nic for many.
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    I started at 24 and went down to 12. I dont need that high mg but I need the throat hit.

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    The lowest I've gone is 6mg, so I can't directly respond to your actual question. But I've read Carr's book (several years ago, though), and I get where you are coming from. Carr's approach has both worked for a lot of people and not worked for a lot of people (not altogether surprising, since once-size-fits-all-models usually aren't). He may have updated his approach since I last checked in, but his original book predated e-cigarettes, at least in their current form. That's important because the big problem with NRT's then was that they were always an inferior (in terms of user satisfaction) substitute for tobacco cigarettes. Thus the big danger of failing to end nicotine addiction was the ever-present danger of a possible return to the superior nicotine delivery system of the tobacco cigarette. E-cigs upend that way of thinking because so many users find them far superior to tobacco cigarettes, which eliminates most of the hazards of nicotine addiction that were unavoidable with other methods.

    Addiction of any kind has costs, of course. There is great freedom (and lots of money to be saved) in not being addicted to nicotine or anything else, but e-cigs have put the question in a category of a different magnitude--nicotine addiction is perhaps now more comparable to addiction to coffee and cable TV than to the really dangerous addictions to cigarettes and other potentially deadly things.

    My point is simply this: If you are able to kick the nicotine habit completely, that is awesome! (Less addiction means more freedom.) But if you find it harder for yourself than Carr makes it out to be, don't beat yourself up, especially not for getting your nicotine fix from e-cigs. Carr developed his ideas in a world without that alternative, and that one is a game changer. Just my 2 cents.
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    Started DIY with 36mg, when I got to 18mg I accidently left the nic out of the blend. Been 0 Nic ever since, (it's been months). JMHO

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    I do some zero nic, sometimes I just like using plain PG/VG without anything added. I also use Key Lime zero nic. Usually I am at 6 or below so I don't get too much nic anymore, but still love vaping. bnrk

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild31 View Post
    I started at 24 and went down to 12. I dont need that high mg but I need the throat hit.
    After 6 mos now I find I don't like much TH anymore, I am a flavor junkie tho! ha ha bnrk

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    Quote Originally Posted by edotman View Post
    I mean this is what I'm hoping to discover, 4 days ago I was a 1.5 PAD smoker, and somehow overnight I no longer get cravings for cigarettes, which I am both very happy and extremely suspicious about, but oh well I'm not going to complain

    The test is when I get my 0mg, if I can happily vape that every now n then and be fine, then I know I'm getting absolutely no nicotine and so the physical addiction is finished, so yeah I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience about this
    Here is my story and I hope it helps. I quit smoking analogs the day I got my first little KR808D1 kit - July 13, 2011. Strangely enough (after having smoked 2+ packs a day for over 20 years - ok probably closer to 25 years if I'm honest with myself) I found myself afraid of OD'ing on nicotine! So I started out with only 4mg nicotine cartos. I vaped these for a little less than 2 weeks and then found myself at work with nothing but a sample 0-nic carto. I vaped it all day and when I got home from work, I realized that I wasn't really craving an analog, so I decided right then and there that I was going to go to
    0-nic and be completely free. From that point on (July 25), I have been happily vaping 0-nic juices and still enjoying it immensely - and still vaping my brains out every day. I'm not going to say that the first 6 weeks or so were easy, because they weren't. You will crave cigarettes. You will go through withdrawal symptoms, but if you stick with it, you can do it too. I know there are a bunch of people on here who will tell you that you get no 'throat hit' with 0-nic juices, but I don't agree. Vape a low resistance carto on a higher voltage device and you will be fine.

    Anyway, just wanted to let you know that it can be done - I am living proof. I wish you the best of luck in your journey. Happy Vaping!




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    Wow this is an awesome topic. I'm going to try 0 nic im vaping at 6mg at the moment. Will higher voltage give you more TH?

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