The Rules of Thumb to Making Great Juice - Average Flavoring Percentages - For Me!

Bill's Magic Vapor;14329272 said:
Just an observation, but I have had really good success with vanillas and creams and sweetener in my juices. Often times when I hear about members having problems with their mixes, they don't use these supporting flavorings that enhance, brighten, thicken, and enrich their primary flavors. I thought I would go back to my post about how new juice makers can make great juice today and look at some of my rules of thumb. I thought it might be helpful to list primary flavoring(s), creams and vanillas, and sweeteners as a percentage of total mix. So, here's what that looks like:

Custards

Vanillas and Creams - 12%
Sweeteners - 7%
Primaries - 7-13%

Danish

Vanillas and Creams - 6-8%
Sweeteners - 4-8%
Primaries - 7-13%
Secondaries - 3-7%

Creams

Vanillas and Creams - 10%
Sweeteners - 5%
Primaries - 7-13%

Pies

Vanillas and Creams - 5-8%
Sweeteners - 4-6%
Primaries - 7-13%
Secondaries - 4-8%

Tarts

Vanillas and Creams - 8%
Sweeteners - 2-4%
Primaries - 7-15%

Ok, so overall, my favorite juice mixes have a range of uses of these common ingredients, as follows:

Overall Ranges

Vanillas and Creams - 5-12%
Sweeteners - 2-8%
Primaries - 7-15%
Secondaries - 3-8%

Every juice must be custom tweaked to match your taste sensibilities, but there are some rules of thumb that do work for me. My average juice will have vanillas and creams of about 8%, sweeteners of about 4%, Primary flavorings of about 10%, and secondary flavorings of about 5%, or an average overall flavoring of 27%:

Average Flavorings :banana:

Vanillas and Creams - 8%
Sweeteners - 4%
Primary Flavorings - 10%
Secondary Flavorings - 5%

Total Overall flavoring in the mix = 27%. :thumb:

So, these are my rules of thumb, in hindsight, after making about two hundred different juices and over 50 ADV's. This is my happy place. Do you know yours? :rickroll:

Taste IS subjective. What works for me, may not work for you, so you have to develop your own flavorings that suit you. If you do this, you will develop profiles, probably similar to what I have shown here, with differences tailored for your tastes. After a while, the repetitive nature of juice making will cause you to instinctively know how to make juices that are going to match your tastes, as these lists show my tendencies. In so doing, you will find that you can easily design flavorings on paper, that surprisingly well work out upon first mix. It's because you have spent your time in the Vape Lab, finding what works for you. In the end, it's not magical vapor, but rather your experience that will give you the answers you need to make great juice for you, and your friends and loved ones. :2c: :D

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Greetings from Florida Bill,
Just came upon your threads today and it was just what I've been looking for...All very good advice and although I haven't yet made any of your suggestions....I will be soon and will get back to you on that. I thought your pic albums were a nice touch as well...
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Deffinitely going to use this as a reference/starting point for DIY. Very informative. Question tho, how well does this translate to spice flavorings, IE absinthe? How about tobaccos? Thanks again man!
 
Thanks for all the time you've devoted to helping DIY'ers find their place in juice making.
I also would like to hear your opinion on this translation to tobacco flavors.
I've always come back to adding some type of tobacco to my mix. Fruit and candy, bakery, liquor etc. just don't do it for me in satisfying my ADV needs.
I've come to really love TFA juicy peach at 7%, TFA tobacco at 5%, and TFA smooth at 2%.
This has been my ADV for about 6 months now and the idea of introducing some creams into that mix has me wanting to explore with the many TFA tobaccos that I recently acquired.
Please give us some input on this and your opinion on using creams with tobacco. Thanks, Steve
 
Tobacco's have really never been my vaping preference, though some of my first store-bought juices were tobacco flavorings. I'm sorry, but I really can't help out with the tobacco's, as I've only made one complex tobacco flavoring ever, i.e., my Brandon's Choice Recipe, for my Son, Brandon, who passed away in August, and provided the catalyst for me coming to ECF in the first place to share my work with juices! Good luck to you! :toast:
 
Kingboomer;bt12666 said:
Deffinitely going to use this as a reference/starting point for DIY. Very informative. Question tho, how well does this translate to spice flavorings, IE absinthe? How about tobaccos? Thanks again man!
All concepts have translated well including absinthe. I have posted several absinthe recipes, on this thread, and think they are fine representations of High Flavor Mixes.
 
Bill's Magic Vapor;bt12751 said:
Tobacco's have really never been my vaping preference, though some of my first store-bought juices were tobacco flavorings. I'm sorry, but I really can't help out with the tobacco's, as I've only made one complex tobacco flavoring ever, i.e., my Brandon's Choice Recipe, for my Son, Brandon, who passed away in August, and provided the catalyst for me coming to ECF in the first place to share my work with juices! Good luck to you! :toast:


Thank you for the reply, I'll just start playing with them. :toast:

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss!
 
Thank you for sharing all your hard work. I appreciate it. Hopefully, some day I can contribute something as good as your information.