THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
Go back and checkoff what you have above. Do you have what is considered the most important for your collection? Circle what you do not have or do not understand and ask for clarification on ECF.
Read through the following and get ready for more depth as you become nearly self sufficient in vaping.
WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE
- Professional Jeweler's Lighted Magnifier Visor (AMAZON) for wrapping coils.
GeekVape has staple staggered claptons and alien claptons
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: ORDER SS316L & NICHROME WIRE BY THE LB OR WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD.) (whatever is rqd for claptons, twisted(2 and 4 strand), std wires)
- 1 - variable speed, reversible drill for making twisted and clapton wire
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ LIGHTNING VAPES: CLAPTON: watch the coil gauge
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ PRE FABBED COIL SETS - UD FERRIS WHEEL IN KANTHAL A1, COILMASTER, ETC.
Minimum to buy for ea TYPE (Kanthal(PWR), SS 316L(TC, PWR, or TCR), SS430(TCR), NiCr80(????)) ordered FROM Lightning Vapes, Unkaman, Rio Grande (riogrande.com) and TEMco
Stainless Steel Notes:
- 316 series has a safety rating of 95 (A+).
- ECF: @suprtrkr on SS "Use a screw for wrapping if you want to try a spaced SS coil"
- ECF: @Elvensilvan "If you are going (to do) TC (with 316L), then spaced coils are better so that the mod chip can accurately read the coil's temperature."
Kanthal Notes:
- has a safety rating of 88 (B+) found in many different gauges (PRETTY SAFE: composite of iron, chromium, aluminum: these metals do not leach).
Nickel Ni200 Notes:
- WARNINGS: Don't dry burn Nickel or Titanium. Don't pulse the coils. Don't wrap tightly to get a single hot spot, the metal leaches, and also releases nickel carbonol which causes cancer according to FDA...safety rating is F. Nickel and Titanium coils are a NO NO on any mech mod.
SO FAR HAVE: Buy both Kanthal A1 and SS 316L
- 22 awg - BUY 2500+ feet
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 24ga 316L for $9.00
- 24 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 10m Kanthal A1
Have: 600ft 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 24ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 24ga 316L for $10.00
BUY: 250ft 24ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $30.00
- 26 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 25ft 26ga Ti
Have: 250ft 26ga 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 26ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 26ga 316L for $8.00
BUY: 250ft 26ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $25.00
- 28 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 250ft 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 28ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 28ga 316L for $9.75
BUY: 250ft 28ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $20.00
- 30 awg - BUY 1000+ feet
- 32 awg - BUY 1000+ feet
- 36 awg - BUY 5000+ feet for clapton(EX: 36 OUTER over 26 INNER)
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 36ga Kanthal for $
- 38 awg - BUY 5000+ ft for clapton (GrimmGreen: Fused clapton 28ga wrapped with 38ga)
- 40 awg - BUY 5000+ feet for clapton
- Ribbon Wire (Lightning Vapes: For Alien Staple Coils)
0.4x0.1mm
0.5x0.1mm - BUY 5000 feet
Have: 100ft Kanthal A1
0.8x0.1mm
- Clapton
Have: 25ft - 34k/24n
Have: 50ft - 36k/26ss
Have: 75ft - 36k/28ss
NOTE! It is always a thicker wire wrapped by a thinner wire.
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: buy 10) SPOOL TAMER (for wire on spools)
## BATTERIES from Orbtronic, Illumn or >>RTDVapor<<
ECF information on Ohms Law HERE
- 8 BATTERY CASES (BOUGHT 4)
@Rossum If the supply gets cut off: "cordless power tool battery packs are a safe choice; they will have high-drain cell in them."
"a 40% charge is usually recommended for storage. I figure around 3.6v + or so."
"I like to keep them at 3.6-3.7V, because that's where all the new batteries I've received have been, and I figure the manufacturers know what they're doing. I have some spare batteries that have never been put in service. I try to check them a few times a year and take them back to 3.7V if they've fallen below 3.6V."
"Some devices will eventually drain the battery below safe levels, destroying the batteries. Do NOT leave them in a device or corrosion will occur!"
ECF @Mooch Battery Tests
- 2 - BATTERY CHARGER: buy the very best 4 battery, 18650/26650 (LOOK FOR MODEL "XTAR VC4") (BOUGHT: 1 USB charging kit; BOUGHT: 2 Wall adapters)
- ECF: @retired1 :: You should never charge the battery above 4.2v, nor let it get below 3.2v.
- ECF: @Baditude :: The processor in a regulated mod decides whether your battery(s) have enough amps (current) available to fire whatever coil you have on the mod. If the processor sees that there is not enough battery power available, it will display on the screen that there is not enough power. So no worries about over-taxing your batteries in a regulated mod. That's the beauty of regulated mods and protection circuitry. Now, in a mechanical mod (no processor), its an entirely different story. You must do calculations yourself to make sure that your coil build will not pull more amps than the battery has to give, or very bad things can happen.
- ECF: @zoiDman :: What you Really need to do if you are going to use an Unregulated Device is to Know How to Calculate the Amps the Battery will be asked to provide based on the Resistance of your Build. Then you take the Constant Discharge Rate (CDR) that the Battery is Rated for and subtract about 15% for some "Headroom". Than the you set the Lowest Resistance so it does Not Exceed the CDR for the Battery you are planning on using.
- ECF: @MMcQ :: Best bet for storing batteries long term is at 40% capacity at 0 C. See "How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries" at Battery University. That's about 3.85 volts according to the link so having the shop charge them and then draining them down should be ok and if stored in a freezer then a moisture barrier should be used. That's only for a year though so I would guess that you should check them after that long and charge up as necessary. Just my opinion though.
- ECF: @Mooch :: Two years of storage is a long time. Even under perfect conditions you're going to lose some capacity and the internal resistance will go up. How much will be determined by the storage conditions.
- ECF: @sig-cmt :: Take a look at the technical documents for the cells you plan on purchasing. For the HG2, nominal specifications for shipping storage indicate -20 to 20°C for a period of one year at approximately 40% of a full charge.
- ECF: @Baditude :: When you build your coil and fire it on your mod, it will draw a specific amount of current (amps) from the battery. That current must not be more than the total amps in continuous discharge rate of the battery, or very bad things could happen. BOOM! Always tend to err on the side of safety when you make your builds by allowing some safety head room.
1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway?
Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.
I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 20A batteries, that would be 10A. The above Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a .4 ohm build is as low as I would want to use.
The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 20A battery may only be a 10A battery.
Lower Ohm Coils Will:
- Heat The Coil Faster
- Produce More Vapor
- Drain The Battery Faster
- Use E-Juice Faster
- Produce A Warmer Tasting Vape
Higher Ohm Coils Will:
- Heat The Coil Slower, Which Will Produce “Less” Vapor
- Provide A “Cooler” Tasting Vape
- Use Less E-Juice
- Prolong Battery Life
## STORAGE FOR VAPING GOODS
- 2 - long plastic under bed containers (keep batteries at desk near computer, and liquids in the fridge/freezer) OR Rigid Tool Box System.
- Deep Storage Freezer, no defrost may be the best bet. Looking for minimum temp of -20 CENTIGRADE if at all possible.
Whether storing your nicotine in a refrigerator freezer OR deep storage freezer you may consider placing all of the nicotine in Zip Lock bags, or in a plastic container. Completely surrounding it with thin sheets of Styrofoam would be good too.
- Battery Backup UPS for Freezer in case of a power outage
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
THE FOLLOWING 90 DAYS - STAGE TWO
Go back and checkoff what you have above. Do you have what is considered the most important for your collection? Circle what you do not have or do not understand and ask for clarification on ECF.
Read through the following and get ready for more depth as you become nearly self sufficient in vaping.
WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE WIRE
- Professional Jeweler's Lighted Magnifier Visor (AMAZON) for wrapping coils.
GeekVape has staple staggered claptons and alien claptons
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: ORDER SS316L & NICHROME WIRE BY THE LB OR WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD.) (whatever is rqd for claptons, twisted(2 and 4 strand), std wires)
- 1 - variable speed, reversible drill for making twisted and clapton wire
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ LIGHTNING VAPES: CLAPTON: watch the coil gauge
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: 10) ORDER 10+ PRE FABBED COIL SETS - UD FERRIS WHEEL IN KANTHAL A1, COILMASTER, ETC.
Minimum to buy for ea TYPE (Kanthal(PWR), SS 316L(TC, PWR, or TCR), SS430(TCR), NiCr80(????)) ordered FROM Lightning Vapes, Unkaman, Rio Grande (riogrande.com) and TEMco
Stainless Steel Notes:
- 316 series has a safety rating of 95 (A+).
- ECF: @suprtrkr on SS "Use a screw for wrapping if you want to try a spaced SS coil"
- ECF: @Elvensilvan "If you are going (to do) TC (with 316L), then spaced coils are better so that the mod chip can accurately read the coil's temperature."
Kanthal Notes:
- has a safety rating of 88 (B+) found in many different gauges (PRETTY SAFE: composite of iron, chromium, aluminum: these metals do not leach).
Nickel Ni200 Notes:
- WARNINGS: Don't dry burn Nickel or Titanium. Don't pulse the coils. Don't wrap tightly to get a single hot spot, the metal leaches, and also releases nickel carbonol which causes cancer according to FDA...safety rating is F. Nickel and Titanium coils are a NO NO on any mech mod.
SO FAR HAVE: Buy both Kanthal A1 and SS 316L
- 22 awg - BUY 2500+ feet
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 24ga 316L for $9.00
- 24 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 10m Kanthal A1
Have: 600ft 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 24ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 24ga 316L for $10.00
BUY: 250ft 24ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $30.00
- 26 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 25ft 26ga Ti
Have: 250ft 26ga 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 26ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 26ga 316L for $8.00
BUY: 250ft 26ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $25.00
- 28 awg - BUY 5000+ feet
Have: 250ft 316L
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 28ga nichrome for $15
BUY: 250ft 28ga 316L for $9.75
BUY: 250ft 28ga Kanthal BULK PACK for $20.00
- 30 awg - BUY 1000+ feet
- 32 awg - BUY 1000+ feet
- 36 awg - BUY 5000+ feet for clapton(EX: 36 OUTER over 26 INNER)
LIGHTNING VAPES PRICES
BUY: 250ft 36ga Kanthal for $
- 38 awg - BUY 5000+ ft for clapton (GrimmGreen: Fused clapton 28ga wrapped with 38ga)
- 40 awg - BUY 5000+ feet for clapton
- Ribbon Wire (Lightning Vapes: For Alien Staple Coils)
0.4x0.1mm
0.5x0.1mm - BUY 5000 feet
Have: 100ft Kanthal A1
0.8x0.1mm
- Clapton
Have: 25ft - 34k/24n
Have: 50ft - 36k/26ss
Have: 75ft - 36k/28ss
NOTE! It is always a thicker wire wrapped by a thinner wire.
## (NEXT 90 DAYS: buy 10) SPOOL TAMER (for wire on spools)
## BATTERIES from Orbtronic, Illumn or >>RTDVapor<<
ECF information on Ohms Law HERE
- 8 BATTERY CASES (BOUGHT 4)
@Rossum If the supply gets cut off: "cordless power tool battery packs are a safe choice; they will have high-drain cell in them."
"a 40% charge is usually recommended for storage. I figure around 3.6v + or so."
"I like to keep them at 3.6-3.7V, because that's where all the new batteries I've received have been, and I figure the manufacturers know what they're doing. I have some spare batteries that have never been put in service. I try to check them a few times a year and take them back to 3.7V if they've fallen below 3.6V."
"Some devices will eventually drain the battery below safe levels, destroying the batteries. Do NOT leave them in a device or corrosion will occur!"
ECF @Mooch Battery Tests
- 2 - BATTERY CHARGER: buy the very best 4 battery, 18650/26650 (LOOK FOR MODEL "XTAR VC4") (BOUGHT: 1 USB charging kit; BOUGHT: 2 Wall adapters)
- ECF: @retired1 :: You should never charge the battery above 4.2v, nor let it get below 3.2v.
- ECF: @Baditude :: The processor in a regulated mod decides whether your battery(s) have enough amps (current) available to fire whatever coil you have on the mod. If the processor sees that there is not enough battery power available, it will display on the screen that there is not enough power. So no worries about over-taxing your batteries in a regulated mod. That's the beauty of regulated mods and protection circuitry. Now, in a mechanical mod (no processor), its an entirely different story. You must do calculations yourself to make sure that your coil build will not pull more amps than the battery has to give, or very bad things can happen.
- ECF: @zoiDman :: What you Really need to do if you are going to use an Unregulated Device is to Know How to Calculate the Amps the Battery will be asked to provide based on the Resistance of your Build. Then you take the Constant Discharge Rate (CDR) that the Battery is Rated for and subtract about 15% for some "Headroom". Than the you set the Lowest Resistance so it does Not Exceed the CDR for the Battery you are planning on using.
- ECF: @MMcQ :: Best bet for storing batteries long term is at 40% capacity at 0 C. See "How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries" at Battery University. That's about 3.85 volts according to the link so having the shop charge them and then draining them down should be ok and if stored in a freezer then a moisture barrier should be used. That's only for a year though so I would guess that you should check them after that long and charge up as necessary. Just my opinion though.
- ECF: @Mooch :: Two years of storage is a long time. Even under perfect conditions you're going to lose some capacity and the internal resistance will go up. How much will be determined by the storage conditions.
- ECF: @sig-cmt :: Take a look at the technical documents for the cells you plan on purchasing. For the HG2, nominal specifications for shipping storage indicate -20 to 20°C for a period of one year at approximately 40% of a full charge.
- ECF: @Baditude :: When you build your coil and fire it on your mod, it will draw a specific amount of current (amps) from the battery. That current must not be more than the total amps in continuous discharge rate of the battery, or very bad things could happen. BOOM! Always tend to err on the side of safety when you make your builds by allowing some safety head room.
1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway?
Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.
I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 20A batteries, that would be 10A. The above Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a .4 ohm build is as low as I would want to use.
The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 20A battery may only be a 10A battery.
Lower Ohm Coils Will:
- Heat The Coil Faster
- Produce More Vapor
- Drain The Battery Faster
- Use E-Juice Faster
- Produce A Warmer Tasting Vape
Higher Ohm Coils Will:
- Heat The Coil Slower, Which Will Produce “Less” Vapor
- Provide A “Cooler” Tasting Vape
- Use Less E-Juice
- Prolong Battery Life
## STORAGE FOR VAPING GOODS
- 2 - long plastic under bed containers (keep batteries at desk near computer, and liquids in the fridge/freezer) OR Rigid Tool Box System.
- Deep Storage Freezer, no defrost may be the best bet. Looking for minimum temp of -20 CENTIGRADE if at all possible.
Whether storing your nicotine in a refrigerator freezer OR deep storage freezer you may consider placing all of the nicotine in Zip Lock bags, or in a plastic container. Completely surrounding it with thin sheets of Styrofoam would be good too.
- Battery Backup UPS for Freezer in case of a power outage
