Vape Mail Ban.

The vape mail ban.
Oh man.

Here's what you should know, I got this from Reddit:

u/ElectricHamster89 summed it up here

The bullet point breakdown:

• USPS will not be shipping direct to consumers on or around April 27th.
  
• FedEx has stated they will not ship vapor products starting March 1st
  
• UPS has stated they will not ship vapor products on or after April 5th
  
• DHL already restricts domestic shipping of vapor products

So where does this leave us? Well, likely this still means USPS will continue to allow B2B purchases to be mailed, so businesses like Brick and Mortar vape shops should still receive supplies, and DIY is still (with the likely exception of sourcing nicotine) viable for making e liquid yourself. Non-specific purpose cotton and wire will still be available so rebuildables will still remain viable if you already have them.

Speaking directly with several DIY Vendors I have been told the following:

• River Supply Co’s response:

We are still working on alternative solutions but unfortunately cannot provide any further information at the moment.

• Nude Nicotine’s response:

The ban is going to affect all vape products, including the ones for DIY.
We are working on a plan with alternative shippers to get our customers their products, however, the shipping time may increase.
We suggest to all our customers to order and stock up now, as there is going to a slight transitional period before our alternative shipping methods run smoothly.

• Liquid Barn’s response:

We are working hard to determine the impact of recent legislation. At this time it is too early to tell what the extent of this will have on future business. As we are updated with more information we will begin to notify customers.

• LiquidNicotineWholesalers’ response:

The ban is written clearly enough that we will not be able to ship with USPS and FedEx. We are currently in talks with other couriers to find a solution for the vape mail ban. We do not have any plans on shutting our doors. We will reach out to all of our customers once we know more.

• Bull City Flavors’ response:

we've been officially cleared by FedEx legal and don't anticipate any issues from the USPS or UPS. … I spoke with several of our key suppliers in Sept/Oct of 2019 after Trump announced a national flavor ban and it was bleak so it is possible that some flavor houses don't survive.

• Flavor Jungle’s response: In a phone conversation with the vendor they have said that due to the multi-use nature of the products they sell, and the fact that they do not sell nicotine, they do not anticipate any issues for themselves specifically to sell directly to consumers.
  
• My Freedom Smokes's response:

The main issue with DIY supplies is the nicotine part. PG/VG and flavoring concentrates are used in many other applications so we don’t foresee any issue shipping those to DIY customers. We are working with another shipping company other than FedEx, UPS and USPS in case all of those companies stop shipping vape supplies. We are going to try and continue selling as much as we can while staying with in the new laws and regulations. Right now there is a lot of uncertainty and we’re not sure just yet how this will affect us moving forward. We will try to alert our customers as much as possible about changes coming down to us as more information is available.

That seems the general consensus among DIY Vendors. Nicotine is the sticking point. If there is one thing to stock up on Right now it is nicotine.

A response from Hamilton Devices (seller of CCell/THC cart devices) hat tip to /u/vApe_Escape

USPS allowing comments on their proposed treatment of Ecigs hat tip to /u/checkmak01

Further information regarding excise taxes that need to be collected as part of the PACT act from u/_tk42one

So there you go.

I honestly can't believe all this.

Not to mention the PMTA rules are in effect ! Remember those ?

Ugh.
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