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  1. This list is courtesy of ECF Member Sir2fyablyNutz

    DIY
    RECIPIES
    DIY E-Liquid | E-Cigarette Forum
    E-Liquid Recipes | E-Cigarette Forum
    For recipes only!!!!!!! | E-Cigarette Forum
    EcigExpress Archive Cookbook | Your favorite e-liquid recipes
    Clone Recipes | Homemade E-juice Recipes
    E-liquid recipes | dot1ml
    diyRecipeBook
    Mega TFA / TPA Recipe Thread : DIY_eJuice
    Solid list of DIY clones! : DIY_eJuice
    hic : cerealkillaclone
    ejuicerecipeforum-the place for DIY e-juice lovers
    e-Liquid Calculator
    TFA_Vendor's Recipes_06_23_14.pdf - Google Drive
    E-Liquid Recipes | E-Juice Recipes
    E-Liquid Mixing Recipes | Make My Vape
    E-Liquid Recipes | Planet of the Vapes
    99Juices
    Zoho Creator -DIY e-Juice Recipe Book
    UK Vapers - Juice Recipes
    Recipe mega thread
    Accueil - Le DIY pour les Nuls
    FLAVOR CHARTS Page | BAKE IT RIGHT
    Flavor Profiles that Pair Together in Recipes - Nouveau RawNouveau Raw
    Favorite tobacco flavoring discussion - Tobacco flavoring discussion only | E-Cigarette Forum

    MANUFACTURERS
    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread | E-Cigarette Forum
    The Hangsen Thread | E-Cigarette Forum
    Inawera- a few reviews | E-Cigarette Forum
    Flavor West DIY flavor review | E-Cigarette Forum
    LIST of Capella Flavor Percentages | E-Cigarette Forum
    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings | E-Cigarette Forum
    Inawera Flavor Review - 45 Flavors From InaweraShop - Add Yours Too! | E-Cigarette Forum

    DIY SUPPLIERS
    Bull City Vapor - Best Prices on DIY e-liquid Supplies (Capella, Flavour Art, Flavor West, Hangsen, Inawera, Flavor Apprentice)
    Wizard Labs (Capella, LorAnn, Seedman, Flavor Apprentice, )
    DIY E-Liquid, Electronic Cigarettes and Wholesale Nicotine & E-Cig Juice | EcigExpress (Flavour Art, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavors Express, Natures Flavors,
    Signature (TFA), Jungle Flavors, Hangsen, Tasty Puff, Inawera, Capella)
    DIY E-Cig Supplies & E-Cigarette Liquid | Make Your Own E-Liquid | RTS Vapes (LorAnn, Capella, Hangsen, Flavour Art, Flavor Apprentice, FLavor Jungle,
    Flavor West, Inawera, RTS blends)
    Electronic Cigarettes | E-Liquids - MyFreedomSmokes (LorAnn, Flavour Art, Flavor Apprentice, MFS house blends)
    http://www.diyflavorshack.com/ (House blends/brands)
    Perfumers Apprentice - The Flavor Apprentice - World of Flavors (TPA/TFA)
    Capella Flavor Drops - Over 75+ Water Soluble Concentrated Flavorings (Capella)
    Flavor West (Flavor West)
    DIY E-liquid Supplies - Home (Capella, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavor Apprentice,House Blends)
    Wholesale Nicotine, Bulk e-Liquid, PG, VG and Supplies Heartlandvapes Wholesale (Capellas, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavor Apprentice, House Blends)
    E-liquid Mart (Capellas, Flavour Art)
    DIY E Liquid Flavoring - E Cig eGo, E juice, Mods, Cartomizers, Liquid Nicotine, DIY Flavorings (Vaping Zone VG flavor, Hangsen)
    All Vaping Flavors (Flavorah)
    [Concentrated Flavorings] - Nude Nicotine
    Flavor Extracts - DIY e-Liquid Supplies (Madvapes)
    DIY Flavors (Ellas, Flavor West, NF Organic, Flavor Apprentice, Capellas)
    Product Categories Tasty Puff Flavor Drops | Tastypuff (Tasty Puff)
    Vapers Tek (Molin Berry, Inwaera, German Flavors)

    PG/VG
    Essential Depot: Sodium Hydroxide, Lye, Potassium Hydroxide, Argan Oil, Shea Butter, Essential Oil, Fragrance Oil, Vegetable Oils, Food Grade
    DudaDiesel - Biodiesel, Chemical & Solar Supplies, Alternative Energy Store
    Glycerin | Bulk Apothecary

    E JUICE CALCULATOR
    eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
    DIY E-Liquid Calculator Ten Flavors Plus PG/VG Adjusting

    GLASS & PLASTIC BOTTLES
    Glass Bottle Outlet
    Glass Bottles, Jars, Closures & More | Packaging Options Direct
    Bulk Glass & Plastic Containers, Bottles, Jars & Drums | Bottle Solutions | Bottle Solutions
    wholesalevials
    U.S. Plastic Corporation | Plastic Tanks | Plastic Buckets | Plastic Bottles | Labware | Plastic Tubing | PVC Pipe | U.S. Plastic Corp.
    ebay and amazon for bottles, bulk syringes, pg/vg,
  2. Using the drop method will quickly help you determine the flavors profile and hone in on the amount of flavoring needed.

    Mix up some base and place it in a squeeze bottle with a luer lock cap and 14ga needle.

    For a 20% flavor mix

    Add 4 drops base then clean the needle and place it on a 1ml syringe and draw up some flavor and add 1 drop flavoring. Mix then test vape your sample.

    For a 10% flavor mix

    Add 9 drops base then clean the needle and place it on a 1ml syringe and draw up some flavor and add 1 drop flavoring. Mix then test vape your sample.

    For a 5% flavor mix

    Add 19 drops base then clean the needle and place it on a 1ml syringe and draw up some flavor and add 1 drop flavoring. Mix then test vape your sample.

    Taste all mixes and determine if the flavor is right for you and at which concentration is good for your particular taste. At this point you should be ready to fine tune this mix using your usual method of experimentation.

    This quick down and dirty method can put you in the ballpark by helping you determine the flavor profile and hone in on the percentage you would need for this particular flavor.

    I do this quite often with new flavorings and it has worked quite well and helps me save lots of material. It's a quick down and dirty easy test but realize it does not take into account steeping that may be needed and is not a guage for percentage accuracy due to fluid viscosity or temperature changes. I use the same needle for all drops cleaning it after each use to keep the drop size as consistent as possible.
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  3. Steps to take to narrow down if that harsh peppery taste is coming from either the NIC, the PG or the VG.

    Peppery or harsh taste is usually caused by old or cheaply extracted Nicotine solution. Or it could simply be that your vaping a strength that's to high for you. The following procedure will help you determine what base component is causing the issue and what you can do to tweek your base to fit your needs.

    Step 1. Vape just the PG alone (No NIC, VG, DW or flavoring). If no pepper taste is detected then.

    Step 2. Vape just the VG alone (No NIC, PG, DW or flavoring). If no pepper taste is detected then.

    Step 3. Mix your usual base (NIC/PG/VG) to your usual vaping strength (6mg, 12mg, 18mg what ever it is....) and don't add flavoring. Vape this base and If you get the peppery taste then you know it's the NIC and not the VG, PG or flavoring.

    Now you can carry that one step further, if your usual vaping strength is let say 12mg reduce the base to let say 9mg and see if it's less peppery. If it's better then you found your new vaping strength.

    Then from there you can adjust your PG/VG ratio to smooth it out even further (all done without flavoring).

    For example lets say you found that 9mg is much smoother then 12mg but not smooth enough.

    Try different PG/VG combos at 9mg such as 60VG/40PG or 70VG/30PG/5%*DW or 80VG/20PG/7 - 10%*DW.

    Note: * DW = Distilled water

    Once you found the base that works for you repeat your favorite mixes using the new base and boy will you notice a huge difference in flavor.

    If you are quitting cigarettes or have just recently quit you may be concerned about the effects of nicotine withdrawal. Well I was a smoker for 40 years and this method of adjusting the base concerned me as well. I can say with all honesty that the Nicotine reduction did not affect me at all. And others reported that if they did display withdrawal symptoms the effects lasted an hour or so but their bodies adjusted very quickly to it. Also if you’re getting a harsh peppery taste this usually means that your NIC level is too high in the first place.

    And that my friends is how you adjust your base to fit your needs.

    Some other things to consider

    NIC is a big factor in the smoothness of a mix. If you have a harsh peppery NIC you’re going to have a harsh peppery mix. Purchase several different brands of nic from different venders until you find the NIC that's right for your particular taste. Strength of the MIX also plays a big part. Compare a 6mg and 12mg mix and you will see the difference. The higher the strength the harsher the mix. What also plays a big part in smoothness is the mixture ratio. The higher the VG concentration the smoother the mix. Flavoring for the most part has the smallest roll in smoothness if mixed correctly. Some flavorings will influence smoothness but not as much as the fore mentioned. Over flavoring especially with sweet flavorings will cause the coils to bake and crust over with burnt resin which often get mistaken for harshness. Sweet flavors usually require vaping at a lower voltage or higher ohm value or constant cleaning of the burnt resin off the coil.

    What also plays a big part in smoothness is the hardware used to vape with. Especially if using MODS. To high a voltage or a very low coil ohm value will burn to hot causing a harsh almost burnt taste so this is also another consideration to take into account. If using variable voltage power sources adjust the voltage lower if to harsh, if using Mechanical MODS wrap coils with a higher ohm value if the vape is to harsh. Dirty or old coils will also cause this and should be cleaning, rebuilt or replaced on a regular basis.

  4. My blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice.


    E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs

    Then read hoosier's blogs. These blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives.

    E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs

    Then read Boletus's blog's. These blogs concentrate on formulation of nicotine baces regarding proper calculations methods for figuring Nicotine concentration as well as safety.

    E-Cigarette Forum - Boletus - Blogs

    Then read Ginger's book "E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid". It is a book which I've contributed to that delivers an in depth easy to follow guide in the art of DYI.

    E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid


    I also recommend viewing VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.

    VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety

    Then read the stickies at the top of the page.

    This will explain a lot of the how's and why's.
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  5. Courtsey of Patrick J. Gleason

    http://encyclopedia.smokersclub.com/16.html

    In summary, what the above physical properties are saying is that there is no possible way in this universe, or any other, that a nicotine vapor can exist.
    You can not get nicotine by burning tobacco. The nicotine will chemically decompose before a vapor of it is formed. Furthermore, if any nicotine vapor did form by burning tobacco, it would burst into flames before any residual moisture in the tobacco leaves is boiled away.

    Now, I realize that the stuff I just said is going to stomp hard on the religion that you have been taught since childhood, but there is no nicotine in tobacco smoke. Never has been and never will be.

    When "scientists" study tobacco smoke to measure "nicotine content", they do not actually look for nicotine. They look for a different chemical named "cotinine", which is nicotine oxide.

    Cotinine is neither harmful, nor addictive, nor psycho-active.

    A great deal of research has been done on cotinine because it blocks the effects of ....... on the human nervous system and is used medically for detoxification from ....... addiction.

    "Nicotine" is a chemical component of many related compounds, such as nicotine citrate, nicotine sulfate, nicotine malate, nicotine oxide (cotinine) and nicotinic acid (vitamin B3, niacin). Pure, free base, nicotine is a deadly poison, an addictive drug and also a good explosive. The above mentioned compounds containing nicotine however, bear as much resemblance to nicotine as table salt does to metallic sodium, or as water does to hydrogen.

    Now, you may ask, if nicotine is so unstable, how do scientists get it to use as a pesticide? The method used to extract freebase nicotine from dried tobacco leaves was discovered in 1828, and can best be summarized by this quote from a 1911 encyclopedia:

    NICOTINE, Ci0H14N2, an alkaloid, found with small quantities of nicotimine, C,9H14N2, nicoteine, Ci0Hl2N2, and nicotelline, CioH8N2, in tobacco.

    The name is taken from Nicotiana, the tobacco plant, so called after Jean Nicot (1530-1600), French ambassador at Lisbon, who introduced tobacco into France in 1560. These four alkaloids exist in combination in tobacco chiefly as malates and citrates. The alkaloid is obtained from an aqueous extract of tobacco by distillation with slaked lime, the distillate being acidified with oxalic acid, concentrated to a syrup and decomposed by potash.

    The free base is extracted by ether and fractionated in a current of hydrogen. It is a colorless oil, which boils at 247 C. (745 mm.), and when pure is almost odorless. It has a sharp burning taste, and is very poisonous.

    It is very hygroscopic, dissolves readily in water, and rapidly undergoes oxidation on exposure to air. The free alkaloid is strongly laevo-rotatory. F. Ratz (Mounts., 1905, 26, p. 1241) obtained the value [o]u = 169-54 at 20; its salts are dextro-rotatory. It behaves as a di-acid as well as a di-tertiary base.

    Here is a link to the web page of that enclopedia article:
    http://77.1911encyclopedia.org/N/NI/NICOTINE.htm

    In other words, to get nicotine from tobacco, you would have to soak your dried tobacco leaves in water to produce an "aqueous extract". Then, mix that aqueous extract with slaked lime (calcium hydroxide). Then, mix the distillate with oxalic acid. Then concentrate it into a syrup. Then mix that syrup with some potash (potassium hydroxide). Then distill it again in an atmosphere of flowing ether and hydrogen. Do you take the time to do all this when you smoke a cigarette? Highly doubtful.

    Stop to think, the next time you read some b.s. on "nicotine addiction" and realize that all this crap has been based on 75 years of pure "junk science" and propaganda. Who was it that said, "Tell a lie enough times and it becomes the truth?" I believe that the author of this strategy was a certain high ranking officer in the Nazi Party of Germany in the 1930s, which Party was also the origin of today's anti-tobacco religion.

    When you burn tobacco, you don't get any freebase nicotine. What you get is an assortment of harmless, stable chemicals that result from the oxidation of nicotine. Visit a drug store and read the ingredients of "nicotine" gum, lozenges and patches. You will find that most of them contain no nicotine, but rather nicotine sulfate or nicotine oxide, or even good old vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid).

    The fallacy that makes "nicotine addiction" junk science is that: Yes, if you make freebase nicotine in a chemical laboratory and inject it intravenously, it will act as a potent, addictive drug, and do every evil thing ascribed to nicotine. However, burning the tobacco does not produce any freebase nicotine.

    Many double blind studies have already shown that "nicotine" patches, gum and lozenges are no more effective than placebos at stopping a smoking habit. Strictly, scientifically speaking, there is no (freebase) nicotine in tobacco smoke; never has been and never will be.

    If you really want to nail the health-nazis to the wall in court, get the research scientists on the witness stand, under oath and penalty of perjury, and ask, "Did you actually measure 1.5 mg of pure, freebase, nicotine in the smoke from that cigarette, or was it actually cotinine that you measured?" The infamous FTC method devised in the 1960's for measuring the "nicotine" content of different brands of cigarettes is a test for cotinine (nicotine oxide). At the time, the researchers said they had to do it that way because it "is not possible to measure nicotine in tobacco smoke because nicotine decomposes too rapidly." A good library or even the web might have a paper telling exactly how the "FTC Method" is done. Do a Google search on "FTC Method" and I bet you find the word "cotinine" in the same paragraph.
  6. Courtesy of Patrick J. Gleason

    The Smoker's Club, Inc. Encyclopedia 16

    Nicotine: What is it, and where does it come from?
    Time to clear the air.

    The best way to understand nicotine, if you don't have a lot of chemistry background is to understand table salt.

    The chemical name for table salt is "sodium chloride". It is made up of two chemical elements named "sodium" and "chlorine".

    Sodium is a soft, dull grey metal that looks a lot like aluminum or lead. Unlike aluminum or lead however, metallic sodium is rather unstable. Drop some of it into water and it immediately bursts into flames. Expose it to air and it reacts with oxygen and water vapor to form white, powdery crystals. It has to be stored in an oxygen free atmosphere to retain its pure, metallic form. Usually, it is stored in oil.

    Chlorine is a highly toxic gas. When concentrated, it has a pale, yellowish green color. Like sodium, chlorine reacts quickly with just about everything. Chlorine bleach, which has chlorine dissolved in water, allows the water to dissolve wood, paper, cotton, fat, human skin, and just about every living tissue. This is why chlorine kills you pretty quickly if you inhale the stuff. Chlorine gas was one of the first chemical weapons invented and used in World War I.

    However, mix sodium and chlorine together and the two neutralize each other to form sodium chloride, a harmless, stable chemical compound that we call "table salt". Small to moderate amounts of sodium chloride are found in every living thing on earth. In fact, without the stuff, a person would get sick and die.

    Nicotine has a chemical nature much like sodium. In its pure form, which is called "freebase nicotine", it reacts chemically with oxygen in the air, with water, and most other living tissues, destroying them instantly.

    Freebase nicotine is highly poisonous and is sometimes used as an insecticide. It makes a good insecticide because it only lasts about half an hour in the environment, being so unstable in the presence of air. In very small amounts, freebase nicotine can be injected into a person's bloodstream and has an effect almost identical to ........

    All green, living plants produce and store nicotine. They use the nicotine to produce another chemcal compound called NADP (nicotinic acid adenine dinucleotide phosphate). NADP is what breaks apart water molecules during photosynthesis. Plants make NADP from nitrates and phosphates found in the soil. The common name for nitrates and phosphates is "fertilizer".

    The secret to how plants store nicotine, without the nicotine killing them, is that they combine it with other things to make more stable compounds. The common forms of nicotine stored in plants are nicotine citrate, nicotine malate, nicotine sulfate, nicotine oxide (cotinine), and nicotinic acid (vitamin B3, niacin). Like table salt, these compounds formed from nicotine are stable, are not poisonous, are not addictive drugs, and are essential to good human health and nutrition.

    The tobacco plant stores its nicotine as a mixture of nicotine citrate and nicotine malate. The tobacco plant happens to produce a lot off nicotine because it grows quickly. Corn and hemp (.........) also produce and store nicotine at roughly the same rate as tobacco, because they also can grow six to ten feet in one season.

    To give a clear picture of just how unstable freebase nicotine is, let's look at a few facts about it. According to the International Programme on Chemical Safety (IPCS), freebase nicotine has the following physical properties:

    Melting Point: -80 degrees Celsius
    Boiling Point: 247 degrees Celsius
    Flash Point: 95 degrees Celsius
    Auto-Ignition Temperature: 240 degrees Celsius
    Explosive Limits: 0.7 - 4 percent, by volume, in air
    Vapor Pressure at Room Temperature: 0.006 kPa


    The interesting thing to note here is that the auto-ignition temperature is lower than the boiling point. This means that, if you heat freebase nicotine in an air free container, it will detonate (explode) before it boils.

    Nicotine is so unstable that it does not need to react chemically with anything to have an explosion occur. Its low vapor pressure tells us that nicotine does not evaporate on its own. If you heat it, nicotine will decompose chemically before it boils. Furthermore, in the presence of air, nicotine bursts into flames at a temperature just below the boiling point of water.

    For a reference on the physical properties of nicotine, you can check the IPCS:
    http://www.inchem.org/documents/icsc/icsc/eics0519.htm
  7. Disclamer

    This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe

    ________________________________________________________________________


    Understanding the flavors you’re working with and how they interact and enhance 101.


    A chocolate recipe and why it works. An example on why other flavors enhance the base flavor.

    Chocolate is very hard to get right and it's even harder to find a chocolate flavor that works. With a little work and experimentation you will find that flavors that you think would ordinarily not go good together actually work good to enhance the base flavor.

    base 35PG/65VG/12 - 18mg (your choice)
    Hangsen Chocolate cream 5%
    TFA Hazelnut 2%
    Hangsen toffee 1%

    Now here's the break down of why this flavor combination works.

    The hangsen chocolate cream gives the mix its chocolate base

    the hazelnut does not add a hazelnut taste but in fact enhances the chocolate taste.

    The toffee does not add a caramel taste but adds a sweeter creamy taste to the chocolate.

    The heavy VG base gives a sweeter thickness to the entire mix.

    Steep for a week or 3 hours in a UC. Out of this world chocolate vape.


    Good luck and happy vaping.

    Read my blogs for more tips and tricks

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/
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  8. Disclamer

    This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.

    Nicotine composition as it pertains to VG, PG and how they react with each other as it relates to Nicotine strength

    Many believe VG reduces nicotine strength more then PG. You first have to understand that the VG and PG solutions are carriers for nicotine as well as flavoring. The nicotine will not change it's chemical composition regarding strength regardless of what carrier it's put in. The nicotine will still be nicotine and maintain it's calculated strength regardless of the base (PG/VG) so it does not matter what nicotine solution you start with (PG/VG) if your end result is going to be a 50/50 base. You will still have equal parts of PG and VG and the nicotine strength will not change.
    So rule of thumb for me is:

    If you want a VG heavy base get Nicotine in VG
    If you want a PG heavy base get Nicotine in PG
    If you want a 50/50 base it don't matter.

    Nicotine composition as it pertains to VG, PG and how they react with each other as it relates to taste.

    It starts making a difference in taste when you move away from the 50/50 ratio because VG has a natural sweetness and it is thicker. So if your mix is lets say 80VG and 20PG the mix will be thicker and sweeter but the nicotine chemical composition and strength will be the same and unaffected.

    So in short If you mixed it down to 12mg it will be 12mg regardless whether the predominant carrier is PG or VG and the only difference with a higher VG base will be a slightly sweeter milder vape and thicker viscosity depending on the ratio of VG/PG but the Nicotine level will remain the same.

    How flavoring effects VG/PG composition

    How flavoring effects VG/PG composition is a very different story. Flavoring as far as I know will not affect nicotine composition regarding strength but in an indirect way it does affect pg/vg composition regarding taste.
    Not so much in the steeped finished product, but in the freshly mixed product you will notice a difference. VG is thicker and it takes longer for the flavor molecules to move through and blend or bond with the molecules of the VG solution thus the final taste is slower to arrive then if the mixture was PG.

    You also have to realize that PG is a better desolving agent then VG so solid flavoring molecules (Base solid compound all flavoring starts out as) will quickly disperse through a PG solution. But the final flavor intensity after it is steeped will be the same regardless of high VG or high PG. So I don't really agree with most that say higher VG mixes need more flavor then higher PG mixes. I believe the mix just needs more time to mature. Further you also have to consider the added sweetness when using a high VG base.

    Compensating the base


    It also should be noted when formulating a base that there are other factors that will also influence the final mix such as what the flavoring base carrier liquid is (PG/VG or alcohol). The additional PG/VG or alcohol contained in the flavoring itself is additive to the base and needs to be taken into concideration and compensated for when formulating the base in order to maintain the proper Nicotine level.
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  9. How to properly mix a favorite standard RY4

    This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.

    This walk through is for a specific mix but can be applied to any mix as far as technique is concerned.

    Flavors:

    Assuming a 50PG/50VG/18mg Nic base

    The Flavors Apprentice ry4 double (RY4D or any favorite tobacco flavor for that matter)
    The Flavors Apprentice Bavarian Cream (or may substitute TFA Deluce De Leche or any favorite cream for that matter)
    The Flavors Apprentice Caramel

    Understanding flavors and how they work together

    Important note:
    Not all flavors are going to be created equal. So you’re going to want to sample flavors from many manufactures this is why if you’re just starting out it is not advisable to buy lots and lots of different flavors right off the bat especially from only one manufacture.
    Concentrate on one flavor family and choose the same flavor from different manufactures and sample individually side by side.

    Before you even add flavoring you must get your PG/VG/NIC base tasting right. If the base is to harsh or does not have the proper amount of throat hit you require the finished (flavored mix) will not be right. Read my blog on adjusting your base mixture.

    How to adjust your base to reduce that peppery harsh Nicotine taste | E-Cigarette Forum

    It’s important to know what each individual flavor taste like. I would mix each of the above flavors on its own in 5 ml test batches using the minimum recommended amount and taste them individually to gauge how much RY4, Cream or Caramel you will need to add to get the final mix to where you want it to be.

    When mixing the RY4 flavor it is important to steep this particular tobacco in order to realize its true taste (read my blog on steeping). The flavor develops over time so what you taste right after you mix will not taste the same after it steeps a week or more. The same is true for creams.

    Again I can't emphasize the importance of knowing what each individual flavor taste like on its own before using it. So you should be sampling every new flavor that you buy.

    When you've sampled all the flavors individually and know what your working with then the real mixing begins.

    Now the real mixing begins


    First and foremost take careful detailed notes of what you’re doing. It's the worst feeling in the world to create that perfect mix and not be able to reproduce it.

    What follows is a scenario of how to go about creating your final mix and the amount's I'm using are a guideline only but is a good place to start..

    Note:

    It's important to get your RY4 flavoring tasting correct because it is the primary flavor foundation of the mix (the main flavor) that you will eventually be adding your additional note flavors to.

    You may want to mix the RY4 main flavor separately the first time you try this mix as described in the "Understanding flavors" section and adjust as needed until the taste is to your liking.

    Always remember if the main flavor of your mix is off the finished mix will be off.

    Once you have your ry4 base flavor tasting just right it's time to start adding the flavor notes. Start the additional flavors at 1%, Taste, steep, then taste again then adjust. If adjusting is necessary add more flavoring in 1% or less increments.

    Note: It is important to taste your mix right after mixing to establish a baseline so when you sample during steeping process you can gauge the mixes maturing progress over time.

    It's always best practice once you have your ry4 base tasting correct and are ready to add your note flavorings to make several test batches with different added flavor levels.

    I would start right off the bat with 3, 5ml batches making all of them at the same time with different flavoring percentages for my note flavors (See example below).

    batch 1 = 7% ry4, 1% cream, 1% caramel
    batch 2 = 7% ry4, 2% cream, 1% caramel
    batch 3 = 7% ry4, 1% cream, 2% caramel

    Steep them for a week or 3 hours in an Ultrasonic cleaner (See my blog on steeping) then taste. Make no mistake ry4 does need to be steeped.

    That will tell you the direction you need to go. Then once you determine that the mix needs more of one flavor and less of another flavor, then the final 2 batches can be used to zero in on the amounts.

    Example:

    Lets say you determine that the cream flavor is good at 2% but there is to much caramel taste at 2% but there is not enough caramel taste at 1%. You can then do the 2 final batches as shown below.

    batch 4 = 7% ry4, 2% cream 1.25% caramel
    batch 5 = 7% ry4, 2% cream 1.50% caramel

    Over Flavoring
    :

    Over flavoring has done in many a DYI'er. When dealing with flavors start at the lowest recommended percentage and work up. Over flavoring can ruin a batch and often lead to an over powering chemical taste as well as a reduction in flavor (Yes I said reduction) and an increase in frustration level. Over flavoring is also much harder to recover from then under flavoring.

    Getting it right is a matter of baby steps when it comes to adding flavor. You will save time, money and frustration by using small, even, incremented amounts.

    This kinda reminds me of a post I answered in the DIY forum where a member was trying to clone a favorite earl gray tea e-juice they purchased and could not get it to taste right. I answered as follows:

    "So I gather that it has an earl grey base note and a lime and spearmint top note. So the question is what is off the tea, lime or spearmint and what is off about it.

    The best way to approach this is to ask "is it off":

    1. because of flavor strength?
    2. because of the taste of the actual manufacturers flavoring used?
    3. because one flavor dominates the others?
    3. because it's to harsh (Caused by to much NIC, improperly mixed or bad base ingredients)?
    4. because it's not wet tasting enough?
    5. because it's not thick tasting enough?
    6. because it's not sweet enough?
    7. Because I did not steep it or let it steep long enough?

    Once you isolate the problem you can hone in on the solution.
    Reading my blogs for more tips and tricks will answer all of these questions."

    Good luck and happy vaping.

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/
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  10. Supplies

    What you need to know as a first time juicer.

    This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.

    Many new users wind up in the pit falls of what do I purchase and what do I not purchase. Many over think and over complicate there purchase and wind up spending far more money then they need to.

    The Kit:

    Many people will by a kit thinking this will give me exactly what I need. I don't really like kits because you get a lot of what you need but also stuff you don't need and you’re stuck with what ever quality they decide to give you which is usually the cheapest. My though is get what you need and not what you don’t need. It will usually be far cheaper and you get better quality.


    Bottles:

    If your going to steep your mix in hot water or in an Ultrasonic cleaner or intend to store your liquid supplies for a long period you will want to purchase glass bottles. Hard Plastic glass like bottles as they age may leach some of its polymer molecules into the mix which may be a health concern. Soft plastic squeeze bottles are not good choices for long term storage because they tend to leach oxygen through the bottle walls over a long period of time causing excess oxidation. Soft plastic squeeze bottles do not present a polymer leaching issue like the harder plastic bottles and are a better solution for short term storage.

    To see more on steeping read my other blogs at:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/

    Soft squeeze luer lock needle tip bottles are wonderful to store your finished juices in and make it so easy to fill carto’s.

    Recommended bottle sizes.


    10, 10ml bottles (for test samples)
    5, 30ml bottles

    Syringes and measuring devices:

    Fluid measuring devices are critical for accurate reproduction of a mix. There is nothing worst then using drops or haphazardly measuring and coming up with a fantastic juice and not being able to reproduce it. Exact electronic pipettes or calculating a dropper bottle to count how many drops to a ml may work for some but this can be a hassle. This is why I suggest using syringes and Graduated Cylinders.

    Recommended syringes and Graduated Cylinder

    Quantity 3, 1ml luer loc syringes
    Quantity 3, 3ml syringes
    Quantity 3, 10ml syringes
    Quantity 1, 50ml Graduated Cylinder


    I personally use a 50ml cylinder for measuring out my 1oz mix bases and measuring large quantities of base fluids.

    As for luer lock needles the larger the gauge the easier fluid will pass through it.

    Large = 14 - 18 gauge used for PG, and Nic solution. For measuring thick fluid like VG use a syringe without a needle attached.
    Medium = 20 – 22 Gauge For PG (to thin for VG)
    Small = 24 – 26 gauge for measuring PG and alcohol based flavors and can give a consistent small drop.

    Safety and safety gear:

    This should be self explanatory but remember Nicotine solution is toxic in large mg amounts so all safety precautions should be observed. In smaller amounts such as 12mg, 18mg, 24mg it’s not a serious issue just wash it off your skin right away. Larger quantities can be more serious especially if ingested.
    I recommend viewing the following video and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.

    This is a must view video.



    Recommended safety gear:

    Rubber or latex gloves
    * Goggles
    * aprin

    * Optional

    I recommend my freedom smokes to get mixing supplies as they have the best assortment and best quality that I’ve found.

    Electronic Cigarettes | E-Liquids

    I also have bought bulk syringes and bottles from Ebay and Amazon at a substantial savings.

    Safety with Nicotine

    Regardless of where you store Nicotine, whether it be in the freezer, refrigerator or a dark closet you must remember that it is poisonous. Keep it out of reach of small children and pets. Use caution and protective gear when handling large concentrations of nicotine and clean up spills at once.

    The Calculator

    One of the most helpful tools you could own is a mixing calculator. You can calculate your NIC base, VG, PG content and flavor percentages. Save your favorite recipes and notes, calculate NIC combining ratios etc... All in one easy to use handy tool and best of all there free.

    I give the highest recommendation to the E-Juice me up calculator.

    eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

    So there you have it. All you need now are your flavors, PG solution, VG solution and NIC solution and you’re on your way. All I can say here is spend cautiously until you get the hang of it. Don't go out and by 100 flavors all at once or large quantities of your base solutions. It gets expensive and causes overload as what to make first with so much to choose from. 3 - 5 flavors are plenty to start off with.

    My other vaping blogs can be seen at:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/

    Good luck and happy vaping
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  11. This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.

    All about steeping and Breathing.

    Definition of steeping

    Steeping is the soaking in liquid (usually water) of a solid so as to extract flavors or to soften it. Some teas are prepared for drinking by steeping the leaves in heated water to release the flavor and nutrients. Herbal teas may be prepared by decoction, infusion, or maceration. Some solids are soaked to remove an ingredient, such as salt from smoked ham or salted cod, where the solvent is not the desired product.

    Source – Wikipedia

    My definition:

    Flavors are made up of solid flavor crystal molecules dissolved in a base usually PG or VG. These flavors need a chance to dissolve, combine, blend and meld with the carrier base (PG/VG/NIC) as well as mature. This process takes time. Time can be anywhere from a day to 5 or more weeks.

    Should I or should I not steep?

    Steeping is an important part of the mixing process but steeping may not be necessary in all situations. The time it takes to steep is really only learned by experience. Whether steeping is necessary is up to the individual's taste buds. I can see where confusion to new mixers comes from with all the conflicting advice given and I for one am guilty of feeding into it. The best advice that can really be given is to let your taste buds guide you. If it taste good right after mixing then don't steep and just vape. If the flavor is off or it's to strong or to weak don't just assume you over or under flavored and don't attempt to adjust the mix. Give it a day or 2 of just sitting then try it again. If after a few days the flavor improves then give it a little more time. If it's still off or there is no improvement then it could need some adjustment. Only experience can tell you what’s right and what's not.

    Steeping is the most over looked and disregarded aspect of DYI. It also is the biggest reason for flavoring complaints.

    A few examples are questions such as:

    I added so much flavor why can't I taste anything?
    Why does my mix taste so weak?
    Why does my mix taste so strong?
    Why does my mix taste like chemicals?
    Why does my mix taste like alcohol?
    My mix tasted perfect when I first mixed it but now its too weak?
    My mix tasted perfect when I first mixed it but now it’s too strong?

    Although there could be other reasons for this most of the time it’s that the mix wasn’t steeped or it wasn’t steeped long enough.

    Note: Many people assume that a mix needs to be steeped and mix there ejuice and steep without ever tasting the freshly mixed juice. ALWAYS TASTE YOUR FRESH JUICE THEN STEEP IF NESSESSARY.

    Tasting first accomplishes 2 things
    1. Lets you know if you need to steep or not
    2. Establishes a baseline to allow you to gauge the steeping progress over time.

    Don't just assume a mix needs to be steeped.

    Definition of Breathing

    Basically letting a mix breath is letting a mix air off undesired alcohol and chemical odor. To air off unwanted chemical and alcohol odor simply leave the cap off a fresh mix and let it sit for 24 to 48 hours.
    A chemical odor may not be as simple as airing out the mix. Steeping may be required.

    Make no mistake steeping and breathing are 2 different things.

    Natural steeping (Nothing but time on my hands)

    Natural steeping or aging can be achieved by just letting the mix sit and let time do its job. This can take from 1 day to as many as 5 or more weeks.

    After you create your mix place that mix in a cool dark place and just wait. Taste check it every week or so until it arrives at the expected flavor. Note the amount of time for future reference.

    Seed steeping (Sow the seeds of a great juice)

    Seed steeping is adding a new mix to an already steeped mature mix. This will speed up steeping to several days instead of several weeks. A good example of this is a honey tobacco mix I make. This mix takes a good 5 weeks to mature on its own. But if I leave 10 to 15% of the old mix in the bottle and add 85 to 90% new mix. This mixture will mature in 2 – 3 days instead of 5 weeks. I don’t know the science behind it but it does work.

    Hot water steep (Giving your mix a nice warm bath)

    This is a very common method of express steeping juice. After mixing you are going to shake it up real well and soak the bottle of juice in hot water.

    Mix your juice and make sure it’s in a good glass bottle with a secure non leaking cap. Shake the mix well. Then fill a thermos cup that has a tight fitting lid with water no hotter then 150F. Place the bottle in the water and close the lid. Wait for the water to cool to room temperature, remove the bottle and shake it very well. Then repeat the whole process over 2 more times.

    Although this is the least efficient form of express steeping it will get you to a some what vapeable state. Still be aware that the mix will be no where near fully steeped quality.

    Recent testing and discussion has determined that 150F is the optimum temperature for steeping.

    Crock pot or other efficient warmer method

    This is a modified version of the above method and is as efficient as ultrasonic steeping but temperature needs to be monitored and maintained at a constant 150F. A coffee warmer, hot plate, slow cooker or crock pot can be used for this. It is often best if you can find a unit with temperature control so you can set it and forget it. If not then you need to use a standard oven thermometer to monitor the water temp. It takes the same amount of time to steep using this method as it would in an ultrasonic cleaner, it’s cheaper and the results are almost identical. Simply fill the device with water bring it up to temperature drop the GLASS Bottle of mix in and steep for the correct amount of time. It is estimated that each hour of steeping using this method equals 1 week of natural steeping time.

    Ultrasonic steeping (Shake, rattle and roll)

    Ultrasonic steeping (UC) is my method of choice. You ultrasonically vibrate the molecules in the juice to blend them at a high rate of speed. The waves of the ultrasonic action also keep the juice at a constant temperature (150F) which gives you the benefit of both heating and shaking the juice. There have been reports that some UC’s do run hotter so it’s always a good idea to monitor the water temperature. A Juice is 80% - 90% steeped in just a few hours as opposed to weeks if steeped naturally. It has been estimated that 1 hour of ultrasonic steeping is equal to 1 week of natural steeping. I find that no more then 5 hours is necessary to steep any juice. After 5 hours I find steeping makes little difference so there is no advantage to steeping more then 5 hours. What you will notice as the mix sits after UC steeping is it will continue to mature for an additional 1 - 2 days but will be fully vapable right after UC steeping is complete.

    You will know steeping is happening because the color of the Mix will change and develop to it's fully steeped color during the UC steeping process.

    It is normal for the UC to emit a high pitch buzzing sound during operation.
    To reduce this buzzing sound make sure the water is filled to the maximum line and use a plastic basket that may or may not be provided with the unit.

    Use only glass bottles in the UC. Plastic especially soft plastic squeeze bottles are far less efficient because the radio waves do not pass through this material as easily as glass. Plastic over time may also shed some of its molecules into the mix which could pose a health risk.

    Inexpensive ultrasonic cleaners are not usually the best choice. You must think of convenience. You must weight the convenience factor to cost factor. If you buy cheap you will get cheap.

    The must have minimum features are as follow.

    - 30 minute or longer timer
    - Large capacity (2.5 quart or larger)
    - Large LED display
    - Heater (Optional)

    My other vaping blogs can be seen at:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/

    Good luck and happy vapeing.
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  12. My advice is my own opinion and should be taken as such. All safety precautions should be followed.

    So you made that mix and think you did everything right or feel over confident because you made that mix hundred's of times. You've added the correct amount of flavoring, mixed your base just right, Steeped for a long long time and now you’re ready to sample your greatest creation. You fill your carto take that big puff and hack, hack, choke, choke, cough, cough.... and you think to yourself my throat is on fire where’s the ice water. I just swallowed a whole jar of black pepper.

    Well several factors that you may have over looked or not realized effect throat hit.

    1. To much PG (I find a 50/50 mix good)

    2. Too much NIC. When I was a smoker 24mg was good but as I quit I noticed the throat hit increased. Reducing the NIC from 24mg to 18 worked. Now I'm between 18mg and 12mg.

    3. Flavoring, Some flavors (Especially some tobaccos) are harsh. I'd reduced the percentage or added a smoother like vape wizard.

    So now that I gave you the whys and what's you need to determine exactly what it is that's causing this. So you need to do the following:


    First you need to test the VG, PG and the entire prepared mixed base.

    1. Vape just the PG alone (Don't add flavoring VG or NIC) and see if it's the PG that's causing this harshness. Put plain PG and nothing else in a clean carto and vape it by it's lonesome. PG will provide throat hit but should not be overly strong or give the sensation of vaping black pepper. It should also be clear and odorless. It should have a thin consistency as compared to VG.

    Does the PG make you hack and cough?

    Yes. Then you will need to switch to a fresh bottle or purchase a new bottle from a different vender

    NO. Good then lets move on.

    2. Vape just the VG alone (Don't add flavoring PG or NIC) and see if it's the VG that's causing this harshness. Put plain VG and nothing else in a clean carto and vape it by it's lonesome. VG will have a slight sweetness and give no throat hit. It should be clear and odorless with a thick consistency. It may have a slightly sweet smell.

    Does the VG make you hack and cough?

    Yes. Then you will need to switch to a fresh bottle or purchase a new bottle from a different vender

    NO. Good then lets move on. (Very rarely is VG the problem)

    3. Vape just the mixed base PG/VG/NIC (Don't add flavoring) in your usual mixed concentration in a clean carto. The nicotine solution used in your mix should be clear and have no noticeable odor. As it ages it will start to amber in color. The darker the amber the older the solution. This is OK as long as it has very little to no odor. A very slight odor of nicotine is normal especially as it ages. A very powerful odor is not normal. The consistency should be as described above depending on if it's a VG or PG based nicotine solution.

    Does the base mix make you hack and cough?

    Yes. Then you need to adjust your PG to VG ratio to a higher VG concentration (50/50) and if that doesn't work your NIC concentration is either to high so try lowering your MG concentration. If this doesn't help then your NIC solution is bad or old so switch to a fresh bottle or purchase a new bottle from a different vender.

    NO. Good then lets move on.

    4. If all is well after all that testing then it's the flavoring. The flavoring could have spoiled or it could be your using to much. Check the date and see if the flavor is old or expired. Flavors typically don't last longer then 18 months and in some cases such as flavors made with natural essences will last less then a year. Try using less of a percentage or add a smoothing agent such as FA's Vape wizard and if all else fails try purchasing a new bottle or switch to a different flavor manufacture.

    If you find that there is still a harshness to your vape and you ruled out all of the above then it's time to look towards the hardware that your using to vape with. This goes beyond the scope of this blog and will be covered in the future in a separate blog.

    For more information on how to tame that harshness read my other blog:

    How to adjust your base to reduce that peppery harsh Nicotine taste


    My other vaping blogs can be seen at:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/
    Good luck and happy vapeing.
  13. This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions

    Sweetening and additives

    Many have asked if there is a rule of thumb when it comes to this subject. Well the simple answer is there are none.

    Oh yes there is one rule of thumb. "Add nothing to the mix until you've steeped and tasted it".

    The following is an explanation of additives and sweetening. It is my personal opinion and should be taken as such.

    Vinegar and Lemon

    Vinegar is used to perk up tobacco flavors. I usually find people adding this when in fact the problem was they just didn't add enough tobacco flavor the first time and the flavor faded after it steeped. It can some times blend tobacco flavors when using more then one type of tobacco but there are better additives to blend such as FS's Vape wizard. Vinegar is typically used at 1 drop per 5ml. It's been my experience that it will make flavors pop at first but then the flavor fades again over a few days.

    Lemon juice is used to perk up fruit and candy mixes and the same can be said for that as well. Make sure you add the correct amount of flavor and let it steep first before making any adjustments. Also the lack of flavor could also be caused by over flavoring which will lead to a absents of flavor. Lemon Juice is typically used at 1 drop per 5ml. It's been my experience that it will make flavors pop at first but then the flavor fades again over a few days

    Think of vinegar and lemon juice as a tool of last resort. Because the problem is most likely a mistake you made along the way in your mix.
    A better use for the too is to use it to try to salvage an old juice that has already faded to a point of no taste at all.


    What exactly is sweetener?

    Humm good question.

    EM (Ethel maltol) also known as cotton candy is not really a sweetener it changes the chemical composition of the mix and changes the perception of the way your taste buds sense flavor. EM is used more to thicken, give body and wetness to a mix as well as smooth out ruff edges. It may give already sweet flavoring a slight perception of more sweetness but will also tend to mute the actual flavor. Typical usage is .5 - 1%. I personally use no more then .5%

    Sucarlose is a splenda type sweetener and small amounts will add lots and lots of sweetness so you need to be careful with percentages. This is a good choice for your candies, desert, fruit and creamy mixes. This can be found in 5 or 10% premixed solutions and should be used starting at .5% - 2%. Remember using very little gives a lot of sweetness.

    I'm nuts about nuttyness

    Acetyl Pyrazine (AP)

    taste description: Roasted, nutty, bready and yeasty, with popcorn and corn chip nuances
    good for graham gracker flavors

    This is a good choice for your tobacco nuttyness such as found in your 555, Highway, T5 mixes or any mix in need of a nuttyness.

    Caution should be used as this is a very potent flavor
    molecule.

    1 - 2% will give you a nice nutty flavor
    2.5 - 3% will give you a corn chip taste
    3 - 5% will give you a burnt corn chip flavor.


    Adding thickness and body to a mix


    To add thickness and body to a mix I use marshmallo flavoring or EM. I use just a tiny amount to give it a thickness and body and not to add an actual marshmallo or a sweet taste. I recommend no more then .5% (that's point five percent)

    Wetting or adding moisture


    To help minimize the drying effect and throat irritation that vaping causes add 4 - 6% of .09 saline solution or distilled water to your mix.. The higher the VG content the more you will want to add. Saline tends to give a softer wetter taste then distilled water but some have said that they can taste the salt. I myself have not noticed a salty taste in my mixes. Normally adding saline or DW to high VG mixes will thin the mix allowing the juice to better wick eliminating dry hits and add the benefit of a less harsh and a wetter vape.

    Here is a list of additives that Ol' Doc Porter was kind enough to allow me to use here

    Acetyl Pyrazine- Sold by tpa. Used in cigarettes and cookies to impart a
    "toasty" taste. Gives your juice a baked, toasted, or crispy note at 0.5%. At 1%,
    it adds the taste of toasted mixed nuts. At 2% it adds a taste similar to Fritos
    corn chips.
    Caffeine- Sold by fw. The active ingredient in coffee. Does almost nothing
    for your juice. According to my brother (who has Ph. D.s. in both pharmacology and
    toxicology), you would have to sub-ohm over an ounce of 10% caffeine juice at
    about 70w to get the effect of 1 cup of coffee. Pretty much useless. To anyone who
    says they get a buzz from vaping caffeine, I'd like to borrow you for a stage
    hypnosis act!
    Capsicum- Sold by fw. The chemical that makes hot peppers hot; also used as
    an analgesic. used in VERY SMALL amounts in your juice, it can cure sore throat. A
    little more and you've got yourself an ejuice akin to hot pepper joke gum. More
    than that, and you may win a one-way ticket to the emergency room. This stuff can
    be dangerous. Keep in mind that the capsicum sold by fw is 375 times the strength
    of the hottest pepper known to man.
    Ester of Wood Rosin- Sold by fa as bitter wizard, also a main ingredient of
    mts vape wizard by fa. Used in Gatorade and some colas to give a bitter note. At
    0.5%, masks the flavor of vg and pg, thus only leaving the taste of your flavor
    mix. At 1% or higher, gives the pleasant bitter ring of colas, whiskeys, or dark
    chocolate.
    Ethylguaiacol- Sold by sv and is a main ingredient of dnb drops wg by inw.
    Adds a smoky, ashy note to your juice. Great for making cigar, cigarette, and pipe
    flavors more realistic. This stuff requires a long steep in order to taste it, at
    least 2 weeks.
    Ethyl Maltol- Sold by tpa. Besides sugar, this is the other major ingredient
    in cotton candy (floss), which gives it its characteristic flavor. It is commonly
    used as a sweetener in ejuice. Its physical properties cause it to gunk up coils
    slightly.
    Gamma Octalactone- Sold by tpa and sv. This is the stuff they put in
    fudgesicles and other non-dairy treats to make them taste creamy. At 50ppm, it
    will make any juice you make extra creamy; you'd swear there's real cream in it!
    WARNINGS: Any more than 50ppm tastes atrocious. Tpa sells it full strength, so
    you will need to dilute it to 1% in pg before using; then you can measure it to
    0.5% of your mix.
    Guaiacol- Sold by tpa, and is a main ingredient of both black fire by fa and
    dnb drops wg by inw. This is the chemical that gives smoked meat and fish their
    smoky flavor. As you can imagine, it makes anything you mix it with taste smoked,
    but not burned. It also adds throat hit. It must be steeped for at least 2 weeks
    to reach its full potential.
    Isobutavan- Sold by tpa, and is a main ingredient of mts vape wizard by fa,
    smooth by tpa, and flavor toner/enhancer by fw. This is the "thickening" agent in
    the aforementioned enhancers. It does not actually thicken your juice any, but
    alters the mouth feel of the vapor to seem thicker. It also cancels the vapor
    thinning effect of some flavorings, thus making your clouds appear denser. Too
    much of it makes everything taste like vanilla.
    Malic Acid- Sold as sour by tpa. This is the sour note in old fashioned sour
    balls candy as well as salt and vinegar crisps. I'm sure you get where this is
    going regarding ejuice. It tends to form crystals on coils. WARNINGS: Like any
    acid, this stuff eats kanthol, albeit slowly, and when used with nickel coils,
    produces nickel compounds classified as class "A" carcinogens (sorry tc fans, and
    no, I'm not showing any documentation, as it is simple chemistry: nickel+acid
    +air=horrible, dangerous stuff; read a ....ing textbook).
    4-Methyl Guaiacol- Sold by tpa and is a main ingredient of black fire by fa.
    Added to foods to make them taste as if they have been cooked on a grill or over a
    campfire. Gives your juice a wood, charcoal, or coal fire note. Just a touch can
    make your toasted marshmallow vape really take you back to camping with the folks.
    Methyl Menthyl Acetate- Sold as koolada by tpa and kool effects by fw.
    Menthol cool without menthol taste. That simple. Of course, you can make your own
    by simply dissolving menthol crystals into pg and cooking it at 180F until it no
    longer smells like menthol. It takes a long time, much patience, and careful
    heating; this is how I do it, but then, I'm an alchemist.
    Piperine- Sold as flash by fa. This is what gives black pepper its spiciness
    Can be used to add throat hit or mixed in equal measure with fa pepper black to
    add the taste of fresh cracked pepper to your savory mixes.
    Sucralose- Sold by tpa. Artificial sweetener that is ubiquitous, you know,
    everywhere and in everything; it's "splenda, the artificial sweetener made from
    real sugar!" Well, being made from sugar, you can imagine what it does to coils,
    not to mention that a dry hit of this will give you more "tar" than the analogues
    you're likely trying to avoid.
    Syringol- Sold in pure crystal form by tpa (for a limited time only) and is a
    main ingredient in both black fire by fa and dnb drops wg by inw. This is the
    chemical that gives smoked meat and fish their smoky aroma. It is the main flavor
    in all commercial smoke flavorings, and was even added to Gen. Patch action
    figures in the 80s to give them the "smell of battle". Mix crystals 13.5% in pg to
    make extract. Be careful not to overdo it with this flavor, or your juice will
    taste like phenol (that nasty background note in sore throat spray).
    Triacetin- Sold as aaa magic mask by fa, and is a main ingredient of mts vape
    wizard by fa, smooth by tpa, and flavor toner/enhancer by fw. This stuff is used
    in many processed foods and in cigarette filters to smooth out harsh notes. It
    does this by temporarily numbing certain taste receptors in your tongue. This is
    the reason you can stomach breakfast cereals, microwave meals, and all the added
    paper and other trash they put in commercial cigarettes. Likewise, it can make
    some ejuices tolerable, maybe even tasty, that without it would be abominable.
    This stuff is actually amazing. If you really suck at diy, and your juice tastes
    like an abortion, you need this stuff; it can save even some of the worst tasting
    mixes. SIDENOTE: Triacetin is also the most amazing coil cleaner! It actually does
    for cotton what conditioner does for hair; vg slowly clogs wicks, and pg makes the
    fibers brittle, but aaa unclogs wicks and plasticizes fibers, leaving them
    flexible once more.
    Triethyl Citrate- Sold by tpa. This is an emulsifier used to make essential
    oils water soluable. It is used by fa, tpa, inw, fw, cap, hs, and just about every
    flavor company everywhere. It is used in most popular flavors. This is the "secret
    ingredient" that turns oil soluables into water soluables, if you know how to use
    it. think of it as "the flavorer's stone", sought after to turn crap flavors into
    gold.
    Trimethyl Pyrazine- Sold by tpa. nearly identical to acetyl pyrazine at top
    of list.

    Conclusion

    The recommend percentages are a baseline to start with. "TASTE IS VERY SUBJECTIVE" So let your taste buds be your guide. Always start with the lowest recommended amount, Steep, taste then adjust.

    My other vaping blogs can be seen at:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dannyv45/

    Good Luck and happy vapeing
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