Juice companies to avoid?
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if you haven't tried totally wicked i recommend checking them out. also Johnson creek is a good one. these company's strive to produce a clean and awesome tasting product.. what im about to say is sad but its logical, would you rather have a juice thats produced by well trained and talented people in a super clean environment under strict conditions? or a juice that's whipped up by some kid with some Pyrex cookware he got at wal-mart and never even rinsed off in moms basement that has old kitty litter and antiques from the 1800s lying around? stick with big company's that have some credentials for the most part and you should be fine.
IDK of bad ones but Halo has a wide selection of liquid, thats where i mostly get mine.
i only buy ones that I have tried myself since its so subjective. what tastes awesome to one person and works great with their particular setup might not do the same for someone else.
Absolutely stay away from Five Pawns. Once you try their stuff, you won't like most other juices, and their (somewhat high) prices may seem reasonable. Under no circumstances try Grandmaster, especially if like peanut butter, bananas and caramel.
That being said, I need to go pick up another bottle of it tomorrow...
ETA: VulcanVape in Birmingham carries it...
That being said, I need to go pick up another bottle of it tomorrow...
ETA: VulcanVape in Birmingham carries it...
The labels on the juices I've seen so far almost look as if they were printed on a home ink jet which makes be imagine someone mixing up the stuff in their garages. I'm hoping not though.
Some Dekang juices are very good, and I've vaped from many many vendors. Taste is subjective.
Dekang had a world class manufacturing facility.
Only one I can think of to avoid is Alien Vapor............... not to be confused with Alien Vision, who are one of the top vendors.
I must hardily disagree. Totally Wicked is very much over priced, and Johnson Creek... I've tried juices for three years and actually ordered a 10 juice sampler pack from them. Honestly all of their juice tastes like what I would imagine water used for boiling hot dogs would taste like ( I don't know any other way to describe it). Sorry man, but those two vendors belong on the 'avoid' list.
I wouldn't avoid DeKang as a juice. It really depends on the vendor (many vendors sell it). Matter of fact it's pretty decent.
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I have a big glass bottle of that I've been letting steep, it kinda smells like nail polish right now but seems like it could be something good in time. How long do you let yours steep?
Look thru the negative review section. That's about all I can offer.
There are so many vendors and no matter who you don't like, somebody else will love them.
If you want recommendations, mine would be
Copper Creek
Ahlusions
Plume Room
The Vapor Room (killer good deals for new customers!~)
There are so many vendors and no matter who you don't like, somebody else will love them.
If you want recommendations, mine would be
Copper Creek
Ahlusions
Plume Room
The Vapor Room (killer good deals for new customers!~)
i guess this thread has already proven that there arent any to avoid then. i dont touch dekang and i think theyre nasty. to each their own.
as far as steeping i let it steep until it tastes good. if i get to a couple months then i know its not going to get much better if at all and toss it.
as far as steeping i let it steep until it tastes good. if i get to a couple months then i know its not going to get much better if at all and toss it.
Absolutely stay away from Five Pawns. Once you try their stuff, you won't like most other juices, and their (somewhat high) prices may seem reasonable. Under no circumstances try Grandmaster, especially if like peanut butter, bananas and caramel.
That being said, I need to go pick up another bottle of it tomorrow...
ETA: VulcanVape in Birmingham carries it...
I'm having the same problem with Gambit.....bought 2 bottles!
My best advice is; find out where they are located, and lookup the location on GoogleMaps.
Avoid businesses registered in a residence; it's not an appropriate environment for a mixing lab.
If you can't even find the address (even after checking the domain registration on WHOIS), then forget about them. *always* avoid sites registered less than 10 days. Be wary if it's less than 3 months.
Lookup the company registration information. You should always be able to find the business owner's name.
And always read over a site's shipping and return policy.
Avoid businesses registered in a residence; it's not an appropriate environment for a mixing lab.
If you can't even find the address (even after checking the domain registration on WHOIS), then forget about them. *always* avoid sites registered less than 10 days. Be wary if it's less than 3 months.
Lookup the company registration information. You should always be able to find the business owner's name.
And always read over a site's shipping and return policy.
As previously posted, Alien Vapor has a bad rep. I haven't heard bad things about their juices, but they purposely called their company "Alien Vapor," which is very close to "Alien Visions" and they make clones of well known Alien Visions products like Boba's Bounty. Riding on the back of someone else's reputation isn't cool.
Another vendor to avoid is Catskill Mountain Vapor Store. Google is your friend about this one. [Moderated]
ETA: Every once and awhile a shill for Catskill shows up on ECF. You can always tell, since it's a new member and their first post is always about how great Catskill is.
Another vendor to avoid is Catskill Mountain Vapor Store. Google is your friend about this one. [Moderated]
ETA: Every once and awhile a shill for Catskill shows up on ECF. You can always tell, since it's a new member and their first post is always about how great Catskill is.
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I don't even LIKE peanut butter with bananas and I think that Grandmaster is awesome.
I'm also into Queenside and... I need to stop thinking about this.
I personally only buy from local vendors. I have a good relationship with the owner of the place I'm going now and I actually know where he gets his ingredients, what they are, and the person who mixes for me. I guess my approach is something along the lines of "Who do you trust more, the farmer in the next county you've seen feed the cow, butcher it and serve it up on a plate, or the greasy teenager at McDonalds frying up pink mystery slime?"
I have to say, I would NEVER order fluid from FastTech, or anything from a head shop or gas station. The only exception to that rule is a place here called Smokies House of Pipes. Their fluid comes from a local vendor walking distance from my house. Of course, considering the circumstances, I would much rather just buy direct.
I have to say, I would NEVER order fluid from FastTech, or anything from a head shop or gas station. The only exception to that rule is a place here called Smokies House of Pipes. Their fluid comes from a local vendor walking distance from my house. Of course, considering the circumstances, I would much rather just buy direct.
you say Totally Wicked is over price, but how many company's can you name that pay for gas chromatography testing (about $500 per test) then publish the results online for everyone to see? i can name one and only one juice company that does.. TW.
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