Non mechanical mods that can sub ohm?
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You own/use this... and it will go sub-ohm? I'm asking because of this:VV 18650 w/ Volt Meter always out of stock
"All units are tested prior to shipping with various ranges of Atomizers, Cartomizer, and Tank systems from 1.5 ohm to 4 ohm, including Dual Coils."
Leads one to believe it may have a lower limit... ya' know.
All the Innokin APVs will fire at or near 1.0Ω (even the 3.0Flames11112 said:
)... but they get a "little warm", so I tend to stay above 1.3Ω. ;-)
any dna20 mod will do
the semovar handles 1 ohm
mechanical with a kick chip
there not many as sub ohm and regulation dont really go together. sub ohm is basically to counter the non regulation of a mechanical, and when using a regulated output there isnt really a need for high wattage so the choices will be slim.
the semovar handles 1 ohm
mechanical with a kick chip
there not many as sub ohm and regulation dont really go together. sub ohm is basically to counter the non regulation of a mechanical, and when using a regulated output there isnt really a need for high wattage so the choices will be slim.
provari fires 1 ohm but low voltage.... more like 1.2 to 1.5 ohm vapes really well
Look at all the above posts. See how they sneak the ohms up and then discuss the real issue: watts.
If you have a regulated VV device, you can always up the voltage to compensate for the increased ohms. That's not to say that all combinations work, nor that it's 100% identical. But rather, that you can "get a regulated device to work".
The real question is...do you know the difference between using a sub-ohm coil on a mech, a micro-coil on a mech, a micro-coil on a regulated device, and a standard coil? Turns out you can get a real decent vape a lot of ways.
So if you don't mind "fudging" stuff a bit to make the electronics work, many of the higher-wattage PVs will work for you. If you insist on 26 ga wire and .5 ohms (or whatever)....well, get a mech and good batteries and a multi-meter and understand it all.
If you have a regulated VV device, you can always up the voltage to compensate for the increased ohms. That's not to say that all combinations work, nor that it's 100% identical. But rather, that you can "get a regulated device to work".
The real question is...do you know the difference between using a sub-ohm coil on a mech, a micro-coil on a mech, a micro-coil on a regulated device, and a standard coil? Turns out you can get a real decent vape a lot of ways.
So if you don't mind "fudging" stuff a bit to make the electronics work, many of the higher-wattage PVs will work for you. If you insist on 26 ga wire and .5 ohms (or whatever)....well, get a mech and good batteries and a multi-meter and understand it all.
I mostly want a mod for back up that can atleast fire 1 ohm due to have ima use 28 kanthal and make micro coils
Or should i use 30 gauge and buy a normal mod? Do lower ohms vs a timy bit higher ohms make a difference?
I don't recall what it is you're coiling, but they (28ga micros) don't have to be sub-ohm.
I wish people would stop chasing these sub ohm builds. Sure, you get a load of vapor, but to what end? What's the point of it? Pushing batteries to the limit in order to create a huge vapor cloud that you can show off on youtube?
I usually run 30g wire on a mech, typically 1.2 - 1.4 ohms and it billows out more vapor than a cigarette ever blew out smoke. And most importantly, it keeps things safe and keeps me from going back to cigarettes. Totally satisfying.
EDIT: And I mean no offense to the OP. Just frustrated to see so much sub ohm talk on here that will eventually lead to someone getting hurt, and get the media focused even more on demonizing us.
I usually run 30g wire on a mech, typically 1.2 - 1.4 ohms and it billows out more vapor than a cigarette ever blew out smoke. And most importantly, it keeps things safe and keeps me from going back to cigarettes. Totally satisfying.
EDIT: And I mean no offense to the OP. Just frustrated to see so much sub ohm talk on here that will eventually lead to someone getting hurt, and get the media focused even more on demonizing us.
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I can make a 1.3 ohm coil with ribbon that will fire on most regulated mods but suck and the same with 32awg round that blows clouds. The reality is the electrical part is easy the physics part is the hard bit. Ultra thick/big stuff needs tons of current to work instantly so there is a reason to go sub ohm. Ribbon works amazing in sub ohm. As far as regulated, i would build that myself because even with higher wattage there is a bottoming out when the draw starts getting excessive.
Seems like another good place for this: PSA: Cloud Chasing is Dangerous.
I'm not saying no one should ever do such things, but they need to know what they're doing first. And maybe the New Member Forum isn't the best place for these discussions. I know not everyone in New Members is a new vaper-- some have a lot more experience than I-- but it seems that most really are new.
Hi Alejandro, If you must have a high wattage VV that can drive a load below 1Ω you are looking to likely build one for yourself with the capability to do that..... Do a search for okr-t10 and see if this type of build is something you think you could accomplish.....http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ally-finished-okr-10-amp-50-watt-powered.html
I have a built a few versions of this mod and I can say that even a genie with a .75Ω coil fires without issue on the t10 chip...
If you believe you can do some relatively simple research, and some fairly small soldering, I say give it a go.... If not then maybe a backup dna20 mod is in your future.... Good Luck. If you have any questions I can point you in the correct direction to find the info you will need. Happy Vaping.
I have a built a few versions of this mod and I can say that even a genie with a .75Ω coil fires without issue on the t10 chip...
If you believe you can do some relatively simple research, and some fairly small soldering, I say give it a go.... If not then maybe a backup dna20 mod is in your future.... Good Luck. If you have any questions I can point you in the correct direction to find the info you will need. Happy Vaping.
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With a battery rated for 30amp continuous output I don't come near testing its limits with a .6ohm coil.
And I come from hookah smoking not cigs. Big clouds and great flavor are what I'm after. Tinkering with different build styles is fun.
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You're right! However with the slightly higher-ohm coils and higher watt regulated mods you can get close because of the other physics part...VOLTAGE. Voltage is "Oomph". Of course, you still need a good high-drain battery. But the voltage difference (say 5 volts or even 6 volts) heats that wire up too. It's about watts...volts X amps. The problem is that most regulated mods are limited to 15 or 20 watts. So if your coil specs with a mech are in that range, you can approach the same thing with a regulated APV.
That's not to say it's identical in all cases...but rather that it can work acceptably with some configurations.
Well yes ohms law, I was more or less referring to the actual regulator portion of the circuit. You can set a VV/VW but pretty much all regulators also regulate current. A VW mod does the math for you but all of them will have limits. There are of coarse other things to consider as well not all batteries can handle 3,4, or 5C discharge rates the ESR is too high to produce reliable voltage so you get plenty of warning because the mod will perform terribly before thermal runaway becomes a problem.
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