OK, this might be a bit long but I think it's worth the read. To start....I just love this thing! With a good batt and coupled with the right atomizer, this is smokin' bliss.
I did own the SD and my quick comparison is this: The SD is a great little device....great vapor and throat hit, plus great battery life. However, I just had too many problems with the switch....because it was on the bottom. I firmly believe if the switch was on the side as my other switch devices, I would not have had so many issues. But as it stood, I just could not get a consistent hit off the thing. Pushing on the button with one finger yielded sometimes a hit, sometimes not. I even tried it with 2 hands to keep it more steady....that seemed better but still not consistent enough for me. And that was impossible for me to do while driving....and a pain even while on the net.
That being said, I feel the mini pipe delivers as good amount of vapor and throat hit....and so far my battery has lasted all day (although I've been alternating with my passthrough too). OK, so on with the results...
I think there was a little problem here to begin with. First pipe atomizer on a fresh battery tried both with a cart and without: very little vapor and no throat hit. Same with the second new one....although after blowing that one out a couple of times, I got it working and am using it now. If they get worse quickly, I will certainly write Smilin about it. I might try cleaning both of them first though. But at first, I had nothing like what you guys were talking about with vapor and throat hit.
Note that when I tested these, I used already working good ata...not brand new ones because I did not want to go through the breaking in period. Instead, I thought it better to just use one I already knew was reliable on another device. The results sound kind of weird (even to me!), and you might be surprised...but it is what it is.
1) I took one of my best working black penstyle ats and tried it with both the cart on and cart off. Nothing....no good. Not even any smoke. This is a 4 hole atomizer and one of my best ones on my other pens....but not on the pipe. I have no idea what model it is (801 or RN) but I am pretty sure it came from Puresmoker.
2) I have a silver at with a black band, I believe is from Puresmoker as well. Another one...nothing. This at is a beaut on my penstyle...but produces no smoke on the pipe.
3) Now here's a kicker....my silver at with a silver band...I believe I ordered from Beci at bestecig.com I tried 2 that I am using right now on other pens and I liked it so much on the pipe, I went and ordered a 5 pack from Beci and will let you know how they work when received. I tried to see what the difference was between the black and silver bands. All I could see is the silver one has a bit of a larger hole there (the main hole to the battery).
4) Now it gets even better! I have some white ats with a black band also from Puresmoker. They are awesome with the pipe! And if this is what you guys were talking about (which I didn't get from my actual pipe ats)...then I see exactly what you mean! Funny thing is...I am not so crazy about them on my pens....but on the pipe....totally different story. I tried them on 3 used white ats and they were perfect. I went to PS and see they were out of them but along with my order for the silver ones from Beci, I also ordered one white at. But the ones from Beci have a silver band. I will be very interested to see if they work and will let you know when I try it.
5) I recently purchased an 801KLR. This at also works on the pipe, a lot like the silver one with the silver band....good but not great like the white ones. But I can't tell what the difference is between this one and my other black ats. They are interchangeable and work on the KLR but not on the pipe. Sounds weird, doesn't it?
6) I saw someone say their Janty 304 worked. No way on mine! Nothing...nada...could barely get the LED to light up....and I tried tightening and loosening it too. I tried so hard I got a pain inside my ears, so I ditched that. That was my KB at....certainly didn't work for me.
OK...so that was it. I would have ordered a black at from Beci to try but I had a bunch of those and gave them to my brother because they were 2 holers and I prefer the 4 holers. I might be able to get one back from him to try. If I do, I'll let you all know.
So my question: Have any of you tried yours with a white one from PS? If so, how was it? I also see that the uk site sells the white with black band. Has anyone tried theirs? If not, I would try at least one and see what you think.
But as far as I am concerned...with a working atomizer....these things are da bomb. My next purchase will be the jantystick and if that performs well, I will be getting rid of all my pens. I will use my 2 KB passthroughs (one for work and one for home).....my 2 KB manual pens.....my 2 Dura manuals....my 2 pipes....and the jantystick. That's my plan anyway! Don't forget....I carry 8 devices with me a day.
Well guys, thanks for reading. Hope this helped. I hope you will add your at results here as well so we can see what works and what doesn't. And I'm not modding anything so I hope we can all find something that works for the best price.....as is.
Lu
I did own the SD and my quick comparison is this: The SD is a great little device....great vapor and throat hit, plus great battery life. However, I just had too many problems with the switch....because it was on the bottom. I firmly believe if the switch was on the side as my other switch devices, I would not have had so many issues. But as it stood, I just could not get a consistent hit off the thing. Pushing on the button with one finger yielded sometimes a hit, sometimes not. I even tried it with 2 hands to keep it more steady....that seemed better but still not consistent enough for me. And that was impossible for me to do while driving....and a pain even while on the net.
That being said, I feel the mini pipe delivers as good amount of vapor and throat hit....and so far my battery has lasted all day (although I've been alternating with my passthrough too). OK, so on with the results...
I think there was a little problem here to begin with. First pipe atomizer on a fresh battery tried both with a cart and without: very little vapor and no throat hit. Same with the second new one....although after blowing that one out a couple of times, I got it working and am using it now. If they get worse quickly, I will certainly write Smilin about it. I might try cleaning both of them first though. But at first, I had nothing like what you guys were talking about with vapor and throat hit.
Note that when I tested these, I used already working good ata...not brand new ones because I did not want to go through the breaking in period. Instead, I thought it better to just use one I already knew was reliable on another device. The results sound kind of weird (even to me!), and you might be surprised...but it is what it is.
1) I took one of my best working black penstyle ats and tried it with both the cart on and cart off. Nothing....no good. Not even any smoke. This is a 4 hole atomizer and one of my best ones on my other pens....but not on the pipe. I have no idea what model it is (801 or RN) but I am pretty sure it came from Puresmoker.
2) I have a silver at with a black band, I believe is from Puresmoker as well. Another one...nothing. This at is a beaut on my penstyle...but produces no smoke on the pipe.
3) Now here's a kicker....my silver at with a silver band...I believe I ordered from Beci at bestecig.com I tried 2 that I am using right now on other pens and I liked it so much on the pipe, I went and ordered a 5 pack from Beci and will let you know how they work when received. I tried to see what the difference was between the black and silver bands. All I could see is the silver one has a bit of a larger hole there (the main hole to the battery).
4) Now it gets even better! I have some white ats with a black band also from Puresmoker. They are awesome with the pipe! And if this is what you guys were talking about (which I didn't get from my actual pipe ats)...then I see exactly what you mean! Funny thing is...I am not so crazy about them on my pens....but on the pipe....totally different story. I tried them on 3 used white ats and they were perfect. I went to PS and see they were out of them but along with my order for the silver ones from Beci, I also ordered one white at. But the ones from Beci have a silver band. I will be very interested to see if they work and will let you know when I try it.
5) I recently purchased an 801KLR. This at also works on the pipe, a lot like the silver one with the silver band....good but not great like the white ones. But I can't tell what the difference is between this one and my other black ats. They are interchangeable and work on the KLR but not on the pipe. Sounds weird, doesn't it?
6) I saw someone say their Janty 304 worked. No way on mine! Nothing...nada...could barely get the LED to light up....and I tried tightening and loosening it too. I tried so hard I got a pain inside my ears, so I ditched that. That was my KB at....certainly didn't work for me.
OK...so that was it. I would have ordered a black at from Beci to try but I had a bunch of those and gave them to my brother because they were 2 holers and I prefer the 4 holers. I might be able to get one back from him to try. If I do, I'll let you all know.
So my question: Have any of you tried yours with a white one from PS? If so, how was it? I also see that the uk site sells the white with black band. Has anyone tried theirs? If not, I would try at least one and see what you think.
But as far as I am concerned...with a working atomizer....these things are da bomb. My next purchase will be the jantystick and if that performs well, I will be getting rid of all my pens. I will use my 2 KB passthroughs (one for work and one for home).....my 2 KB manual pens.....my 2 Dura manuals....my 2 pipes....and the jantystick. That's my plan anyway! Don't forget....I carry 8 devices with me a day.
Well guys, thanks for reading. Hope this helped. I hope you will add your at results here as well so we can see what works and what doesn't. And I'm not modding anything so I hope we can all find something that works for the best price.....as is.
Lu