A fun fact for the anti-vapers

[Insomaniac10]

It's always great when people with no knowledge try to denounce vaping by regurgitating agenda-driven social media headlines, and try to lecture you about it being dangerous because of things like "all the unknown chemicals". Or some other uninformed claim that you then get the pleasure of debunking by assaulting them with vaping lingo like: "glycol/glycerin/kanthal/nickel/ohms/voltage/wattage/regulated/dna chip/etc". To us these are fundamental, uncomplicated, everyday words - but to someone who knows deep down that they don't know what they are talking about, these words can end the conversation rather quickly when delivered with conviction, and it's always fun.

It does not always work, though. Humans are stubborn. I happened to stumble across this last night, and maybe it's been covered here before. After brushing my two year old's teeth, I looked at the bottle for whatever reason. Take a look at the ingredients.

So now, when information and facts do not work when defending yourself against these people (which they often don't), you can now just tell them that the main "unknown chemical" base used in e-liquid is also a main ingredient in their toddler's toothpaste. What a horrible parent!

 

[motordude]

Lol!!
Growing up I always thought Big Bird was a little sketchy.

 

[schatz]

And I can barely pronounce those other ingredients.But it must be safe right?

 

[Snugglepooter]

I usually dive right in by asking the offending party if they are a biochemist or a pulmonologist (inevitably not), then I start talking about vaping on a level that only a biochemist or pulmonologist would understand...

Not that I can claim either label, I'm just kinda smart when it comes to big words.

 

[KattMamma]

Or ask if they know what's in the toaster pastries (or tons of other crappy food kids eat)....

 

[Tony16]

Great, now we've got antifreeze in our kids toothpaste, just great.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Yeah but how does the toothpaste vape?

 

[KattMamma]

Great, now we've got antifreeze in our kids toothpaste, just great.

I'd be more worried about the flouride. There's enough flouride in a tube of toothpaste to potentially kill a 2 year old if they ate the whole thing.

 

[khalidmna]

I'd be more worried about the flouride. There's enough flouride in a tube of toothpaste to potentially kill a 2 year old if they ate the whole thing.

That just freaked me out big time!

 

[Alien Traveler]

It's always great when people with no knowledge try to denounce vaping by regurgitating agenda-driven social media headlines, and try to lecture you about it being dangerous because of things like "all the unknown chemicals". Or some other uninformed claim that you then get the pleasure of debunking by assaulting them with vaping lingo like: "glycol/glycerin/kanthal/nickel/ohms/voltage/wattage/regulated/dna chip/etc". To us these are fundamental, uncomplicated, everyday words - but to someone who knows deep down that they don't know what they are talking about, these words can end the conversation rather quickly when delivered with conviction, and it's always fun.

It does not always work, though. Humans are stubborn. I happened to stumble across this last night, and maybe it's been covered here before. After brushing my two year old's teeth, I looked at the bottle for whatever reason. Take a look at the ingredients.

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So now, when information and facts do not work when defending yourself against these people (which they often don't), you can now just tell them that the main "unknown chemical" base used in e-liquid is also a main ingredient in their toddler's toothpaste. What a horrible parent!

Putting something in a stomach or in lungs are two very different things. We already know we can eat sand, but when inhaled it causes silicosis. Diacetyl is another example. Or just try first to drink half a gallon of water and then try to inhale it. You'll see the difference.

 

[Tony16]

Yeah but how does the toothpaste vape?

Might be a little thick, may have to add some pg to it.

 

[KattMamma]

That just freaked me out big time!

As far as I know, only 1 or 2 people have actually died from eating toothpaste, making it statistically about the same as deaths from ingesting nicotine... no time to google it now.

 

[skoony]

Putting something in a stomach or in lungs are two very different things. We already know we can eat sand, but when inhaled it causes silicosis. Diacetyl is another example. Or just try first to drink half a gallon of water and then try to inhale it. You'll see the difference.

actually the stomach and lungs are similar.
they are both essentially filters.
one filters and exchanges components to and from the air.
the other filters and exchanges components from the food
and passes waste material out.
both are equipped to handle to handle to a certain extent
one or the other.
we burp when we consume to much air.
our lungs are quite good at filtering out unwanted
components in the air we breath.
of course one wouldn't want an air embolism in the
digestive track or particulate mater over certain
thresholds of either solids or liquids in the lungs.
to say the stomach and lungs are dissimilar is a
bit of an over statement.they are both filters
for different classes of compounds.
as of yet diacetyl has not shown to be of any
harm in the form of vaping.

regards
mike

 

[Shipwreck]

I LOVE this post!!!!
I like to play the ANTZ game and beat them at it LOL.... Here's a post I made to a couple of anti vaping groups...
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An awesome little bit of facts!!

Now, keep in mind here that vaping flavor liquids contain only four ingredients: Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin, nicotine, and food grade flavoring.

Now.... Here's the ingredient list from Vick's Pediatric Vapors:
Naphthyl Acetate, Rosaphen, Isoborneol Crystals, Lavandin Grosso, Ethyl Linalool, Tetrahydromuguol, Dihydromyrcenol, Camphor Powder, Tetrahydrolinalool, Rosemary Oil Spanish, Eucalyptus Oil, Dipropylene Glycol.

Did you know that Camphor is used in explosives? It's true, look it up. Did you also know that Camphor produces symptoms of irritability, disorientation, lethargy, muscle spasms, vomiting, abdominal cramps, convulsions, and seizures and is potentially lethal? Again, it's true, look it up.

Do you know what Dipropylene Glycol is? Here's what it is used for:

High-volume plasticizer
Reactant in unsaturated polyurethane resins, adding flexibility and hydrolytic stability
Initiator in urethane polyols, and as the polyol itself in some rigid polyurethane systems
Reactive diluents in radiation-cured resins and coatings, cutting viscosity and enabling easier application

Other effective uses of DPG are:

Hydraulic brake fluid formulations
Cutting oils
Textile lubricants
Printing inks
Coatings
Industrial soaps
Solvents for agricultural chemicals such as insecticides

Applications

Urethanes
Paint and Coatings

Now tell me.... Would you want your child breathing in the vapors from Vick's vapors??? Looks to me like e-cigarette vaping is a lot safer.

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I then sat back for a couple of days and watched the folks freak the H E double hockey sticks out over the mass poisoning of children with these vaporizers LMAO. Once I felt these folks had been sufficiently stirred into a frenzy bad enough to want to hang the makers of Vicks Pediatric Vapors I came back in and posted links to the true facts about the ingredients, which show that while everything I said in my post was 100% true, there is an infinitesimal chance of anyone actually dying or being harmed by Vicks Pediatric Vapor products. I then said "this is how easy it is for people to be mislead by smoke and mirrors and big fancy scientific words, half truths, and twisting of facts when you don't do your own research on an issue. This is exactly the same smoke and mirrors, misinformation tactics the government, heath organizations, and big tobacco and big drug companies are using against vaping. Do NOT trust these people for the truth folks, do your own research and dig deep for the truth!!!!"

I then posted links to many various studies that contained the truth about vaping and invited them to educate themselves beyond the lies that have been told.
Within an hour of me making my second post both of my posts were deleted and I was banned from the groups.......

 

[skoony]

As far as I know, only 1 or 2 people have actually died from eating toothpaste, making it statistically about the same as deaths from ingesting nicotine... no time to google it now.

speaking for just the statistics from the USA there
have been 3 reported deaths from liquid nicotine
in the last 20 to 25 years.(there may be more but,non that
i have seen reported.)
1 murder by injection.
1 suicide by injection.(a note was found)
1 apparent accidental poisoning where the child
safety cap was lost and the bottle was left
in the reach of a toddler.(the cap was never found at the scene)
regards
mike

 

[Alien Traveler]

actually the stomach and lungs are similar.
they are both essentially filters.
...
to say the stomach and lungs are dissimilar is a
bit of an over statement.

Yes!
And brain is a filter for wrong information.
To say the brain and the stomach are dissimilar is a bit of overstatement.

 

[skoony]

Yes!
And brain is a filter for wrong information.
To say the brain and the stomach are dissimilar is a bit of overstatement.

i stand by what i say.
your skin,stomach,lungs,liver and digestive track are
all essentially filters of one sort or another.
some have different unique functions but,are still
filters.
regards
mike

 

[Insomaniac10]

I'd be more worried about the flouride. There's enough flouride in a tube of toothpaste to potentially kill a 2 year old if they ate the whole thing.

"Fluoride-free", as seen in the photo. That is essentially the key difference between toothpaste for adults and toothpaste for toddlers...for the exact reason you mentioned.

 

[Alien Traveler]

i stand by what i say.
your skin,stomach,lungs,liver and digestive track are
all essentially filters of one sort or another.
some have different unique functions but,are still
filters.
regards
mike

I understand what you are saying. And the main thing - we are mostly in agreement, since you said that stomach and lungs "have different unique functions".

 

[skoony]

I understand what you are saying. And the main thing - we are mostly in agreement, since you said that stomach and lungs "have different unique functions".

what i am saying is the stomach and lungs are both quite capable
of handling undesired components in there own way to a certain
extent.to imply that something we eat will be harmful if we breathe
is not necessarily true. every time we smell anything edible we are
getting particles of whatever we are smelling into our lungs.
to surmise this in and of itself is potentially harmful is a gross
over statement.

regards
mike