HI. I’m new to the forum. I’ve been a forum reader for a few months but this is actually my very first post! Sorry for the long post but can’t convey my experience, leaving any of this stuff out! New vapers please note: This is only an account of my frustrations with e-liquid side affects. These health issues may only affect certain people such as myself, and my issues may be caused from me being hypersensitive. So, please don’t let any of my travails cause anyone any undue concern in their wonderful journey into vaping.
I have found many other posts about VG & PG side effects in the regular user’s forum, but I thought I’d open one up in the new members’ area and dig right in since I can post there for now. I’ve been vaping on and off since April 2012
I personally feel the materials safety data sheets favor VG as the healthier choice. Some people like myself have experienced side effects, or issues with both bases. I understand that there are a lot of factors involved, especially the quality of ingredients, etc. I’ve had rashes with PG and ........ and rashes with VG. To my knowledge, PG and VG are the only two bases available to suspend the other ingredients and produce vapor.
PG: I started breaking out in a rash, coincidently enough, that moved over my body in the almost exact pattern, etc. as when I tried using the nic patches (same silver dollar-sized rash spot opposite left elbow, etc). At first I thought I would have to give up vaping, thinking the issue was the purified nic or levels of. But after giving it another go with VG and getting a completely different type of rash, I feel it may be a combination of both; a reaction to PG and a reaction to high nic levels that I don’t get with analogs @ a pack-a-day. I’ve also heard that some flavorings contain PG as well. I also get a sore throat with PG fairly often.
VG: There are other threads that touch base on the digestive problem, so I know I’m not alone. And although I’m only ‘breathing’ in the vapor, I’m fairly certain the vapor comes into contact with the stomach, so hence the connection with glycerin as a laxative/suppository. I found the vape of VG a pretty enjoyable experience and a lot of vapor, however I seem to get heartburn from it. I also noticed that some brands of VG seem to have more ‘funky’ flavors in them, such as a soapy overtone (not surprising since glycerin is used in many soaps!)
My journey so far looks something like this: Green Smoke, Bull Smoke, Smoke Tip, v2, South Beach Smoke, American e-Liquid Store (VG), Vermont Vapor (VG), Juicy Vapor (VG), Virgin Vapor (VG), Red Oak (VG), ECBlend (VG), v4L (VG), Wicked Vapor (VG).
I’m currently using an eGo-c Twist 1000mah w/Kanger T2’s (2.4 ohm). I have on order: Vision T3’s, Kanger bottom coils, and Royal Smoker’s CE2 Giantomizers.
I realize that I need to isolate each brand and test it thoroughly in order to find out which might be causing what. However, I’ve been trying them all, as a sort of ‘taste test’, thinking I need to find flavors I like in order to conduct serious test runs. I also understand that mixing e-cigs with analogs also can add to my nic intake *sighs* So, at this point, I’m a bit confused, but am forging ahead with a VG/PG mixture and see where that leads me. I am absolutely determined to find the holy grail, or whatever! … just something that I can use in any amount without worry!
I’ve got on order a sampler of Crystal E-liquid (75-PG/25-VG mix). I’m probably going to order a sampler from Halo, as through all the tons of reading I’ve done in the last five months, I’ve read some really, really good things about the quality of their juice. I understand that all of their juices are a PG/VG mix, being top-heavy on the PG. Also, they claim to achieve throat hit at any level of nic.
It seems Throat Hit Plus is no longer available? …and the jury still seems to be out on: Flash Throat Hit Enhancer, PGA, capcaicin, etc.
Of course any and all suggestions, opinions, feedback etc. are welcome.
Thanks!
I have found many other posts about VG & PG side effects in the regular user’s forum, but I thought I’d open one up in the new members’ area and dig right in since I can post there for now. I’ve been vaping on and off since April 2012
I personally feel the materials safety data sheets favor VG as the healthier choice. Some people like myself have experienced side effects, or issues with both bases. I understand that there are a lot of factors involved, especially the quality of ingredients, etc. I’ve had rashes with PG and ........ and rashes with VG. To my knowledge, PG and VG are the only two bases available to suspend the other ingredients and produce vapor.
PG: I started breaking out in a rash, coincidently enough, that moved over my body in the almost exact pattern, etc. as when I tried using the nic patches (same silver dollar-sized rash spot opposite left elbow, etc). At first I thought I would have to give up vaping, thinking the issue was the purified nic or levels of. But after giving it another go with VG and getting a completely different type of rash, I feel it may be a combination of both; a reaction to PG and a reaction to high nic levels that I don’t get with analogs @ a pack-a-day. I’ve also heard that some flavorings contain PG as well. I also get a sore throat with PG fairly often.
VG: There are other threads that touch base on the digestive problem, so I know I’m not alone. And although I’m only ‘breathing’ in the vapor, I’m fairly certain the vapor comes into contact with the stomach, so hence the connection with glycerin as a laxative/suppository. I found the vape of VG a pretty enjoyable experience and a lot of vapor, however I seem to get heartburn from it. I also noticed that some brands of VG seem to have more ‘funky’ flavors in them, such as a soapy overtone (not surprising since glycerin is used in many soaps!)
My journey so far looks something like this: Green Smoke, Bull Smoke, Smoke Tip, v2, South Beach Smoke, American e-Liquid Store (VG), Vermont Vapor (VG), Juicy Vapor (VG), Virgin Vapor (VG), Red Oak (VG), ECBlend (VG), v4L (VG), Wicked Vapor (VG).
I’m currently using an eGo-c Twist 1000mah w/Kanger T2’s (2.4 ohm). I have on order: Vision T3’s, Kanger bottom coils, and Royal Smoker’s CE2 Giantomizers.
I realize that I need to isolate each brand and test it thoroughly in order to find out which might be causing what. However, I’ve been trying them all, as a sort of ‘taste test’, thinking I need to find flavors I like in order to conduct serious test runs. I also understand that mixing e-cigs with analogs also can add to my nic intake *sighs* So, at this point, I’m a bit confused, but am forging ahead with a VG/PG mixture and see where that leads me. I am absolutely determined to find the holy grail, or whatever! … just something that I can use in any amount without worry!
I’ve got on order a sampler of Crystal E-liquid (75-PG/25-VG mix). I’m probably going to order a sampler from Halo, as through all the tons of reading I’ve done in the last five months, I’ve read some really, really good things about the quality of their juice. I understand that all of their juices are a PG/VG mix, being top-heavy on the PG. Also, they claim to achieve throat hit at any level of nic.
It seems Throat Hit Plus is no longer available? …and the jury still seems to be out on: Flash Throat Hit Enhancer, PGA, capcaicin, etc.
Of course any and all suggestions, opinions, feedback etc. are welcome.
Thanks!
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