After trying many different things, I found Boggerboxmods.com and this was the key to me kicking analogs. My VV Bogger Box rocks! High Quality, and it makes life so simple, but yet gives all the flavor of dripping. I just happened to have an extra gotvapes atomizer from their not so good pumpcart system, which turns out to work magically with the Bogger box. Plus the Bogger saves me money by not needing cartomizers or clearomizers anymore. A friend had mentioned a bottom feeder was the way to go, and I'm so thankful I stayed away from the massed produced models out there. Marcus the owner has really gone that extra mile and has answered all my questions. PM me if you have any questions about making the move to a bottom feeder, even if not a Bogger, I will be glad to help if I can.