Lol, never mind, just saw your post about the redds.....and coincidentally I just got my redds kit today. I don't notice the strong throat hit like u mentioned, and am using the bloog cartos from happy vaper. Haven't tried the redds cartos yet. I love the case but not sure it is going to meet my needs. Lots of primers puffing seems to be needed, but will keep using it for awhile and see. FYI I also have an ego type one...called the echo I think it's an 808 threaded model....and works pretty good but I don't like using it in public. Not 'girly' enough lol. Got it from cdnvapor I believe. Good luck in your quest for the perfect vape.