Podunk, you saved me some money, thank you! I had thought to try the Rum Runner in a future purchase. I hate Voodoo with a passion. I just hope my 50ml bottle of the Turkish tobacco gets better with age. It still doesn't taste remotely like Turkish tobacco to me at this point. Maybe they forgot to put the flavor in? I taste the base, but not any Turkish tobacco at all. I have tried 2 other kinds of Turkish tobacco...and both have a similar taste. juice Mafia's tastes nothing like either.
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Already posted on a couple of different threads, but i figured it's relevant to this thread too :
MOV 20 % off until Sunday with code SPRING2015. Additional 15 % off on orders of 3 bottles or more applied automatically.
MOV 20 % off until Sunday with code SPRING2015. Additional 15 % off on orders of 3 bottles or more applied automatically.
Glad it was helpful KK. I do want to point out, this was not a reflection on the juice itself. I should have recognized that flavor profile and moved on knowing it's not for me. I'll keep watching for your update on the Turkish since I'd like to try it also.
The cool berry is a blast. Steep it for 24 hours. It is great out of the bottle but just a quick age of 24 to 48 makes it just that much better. I like the Straberry Brulee, Red Drops and Lynchburg Sour is the best. I also cannot put down apple wood. I got it yesterday. Just a few helps for people looking at the MOV line. Here is another synopsis:
I absolutely love MOV. I just got their applewood and it is so good that I cannot put it down right now. I also got legendary which is not bad, but not my go to right now. My go to's in the MOV line are going to be in the following order so far: Red Drop (think Sonic Raspberry Lime Aid), Apple wood (Recent addition to my line up, cannot quite nail a description down right now. Very much a distinct Green apple flavor with a note of tobacco.) , Carmella (A big note of caramel and a wonderful just smooth taste. Great out of the bottle, but even better with a steep of at least 48 hours and a vigorous shake.) I have not tried all the flavors but those are my got to's right now. It is cheaper to get the 3 15 ml bottles and just good for sampling.
also doing a sale of 20% off until the 5th of April.
Also all the tobacco lines from MOV only get better with a 48 hour steep. Really brings out the tobacco flavor.
Juicemafia has another sale. 100ml for $20!
Re-up'ed my chocolate coconut cuz I like it so much!
Jay
Re-up'ed my chocolate coconut cuz I like it so much!
Jay
Thanks, Jay. I am loving my Blueberry Dream right now that I bought from the last sale. I didn't like it when I first tried it, it was too candy-ish. But I've discovered it really needs 10+ watts to come together. Creamy berry goodness.
@Kivrin what's your setup for the blueberry dream? I tried it and liked it, but the flavor was subtle to me. I'm thinking of trying again, since I kept it low watts initially. Also, I was really loving the Blue Ridge from MOV at theme, so unfair comparison on my part.
I'll be ordering 100 ml of Peach Tobacco from JM and would like to get another 100, thinking the Strappleberry which I like. Any other suggestions? I'll probably get a couple smaller bottles to test flavors. A good coffee or straight tobacco flavor for the morning coffee?
I'll be ordering 100 ml of Peach Tobacco from JM and would like to get another 100, thinking the Strappleberry which I like. Any other suggestions? I'll probably get a couple smaller bottles to test flavors. A good coffee or straight tobacco flavor for the morning coffee?
@Podunk, I have it in a GS Air M on an iStick 20w, so my 10-11 is probably "higher." 9mg nic, 50/50, no flavor shot.
I'm glad I changed my mind on it because I bought 50ml without trying it first. But I also tend to prefer more subtle flavors
. I have Vanilla Lemon Swirl and Strawberry Peach Freeze and like both of those a lot too. But that's just from an initial carto test, not from vaping all day in a tank.
I don't really have any other suggestions because I haven't really tried any tobacco flavors yet and have given up on coffee for the time being. My juice cabinet is pretty full, I should pass this time. If I ordered, I'd get a 100 of SPF, because I just got 10ml on the last order.
In addition to the sale, it looks like they have a few new flavors.
I'm glad I changed my mind on it because I bought 50ml without trying it first. But I also tend to prefer more subtle flavors
. I have Vanilla Lemon Swirl and Strawberry Peach Freeze and like both of those a lot too. But that's just from an initial carto test, not from vaping all day in a tank.I don't really have any other suggestions because I haven't really tried any tobacco flavors yet and have given up on coffee for the time being. My juice cabinet is pretty full, I should pass this time. If I ordered, I'd get a 100 of SPF, because I just got 10ml on the last order.
In addition to the sale, it looks like they have a few new flavors.
Thanks kivrin, one more question. Is the Vanilla Lemon Swirl "harsh"..other vendors, the citric flavors bother my throat, but I want to try this one. Thanks!
@Podunk. Sorry took so long to get back to you. I needed to test it again. At one months steep, I do not find any harshness. More like a mild sweet dessert lemon than in your face citrus. I find the lemon takes a back seat to the vanilla and the overall flavor is light. I like it a lot. I may have to place an order after all.
Thanks @Kivrin just what I needed to know. I really restocked the supply this time, hope I chose wisely.
JM Peach Tobacco, Strappleberry, & Flue Cured (since I liked the peach..hope this doesn't wind up like my Rum Runner fiasco) all 100 ml. Added a sampler of Quindicci, Apple Overload, and the Vanilla Lemon Swirl.
But I didn't stop there, hit MOV for more Blue Ridge, then decided what the heck, I'm already going to be in the doghouse when all this shows up so threw in Blueberry Cobbler, Americano, & Classic Country just to make it worthwhile.
JM Peach Tobacco, Strappleberry, & Flue Cured (since I liked the peach..hope this doesn't wind up like my Rum Runner fiasco) all 100 ml. Added a sampler of Quindicci, Apple Overload, and the Vanilla Lemon Swirl.
But I didn't stop there, hit MOV for more Blue Ridge, then decided what the heck, I'm already going to be in the doghouse when all this shows up so threw in Blueberry Cobbler, Americano, & Classic Country just to make it worthwhile.
First let me start by saying that the intentions of this thread are commendable. Having said that, I have resigned myself to the notion that nothing that tastes good is truly good for you, at least for the time being.
While it would certainly be ideal to have e-juice vendors who are transparent and do not use diacetyl / diketones, my understanding is as follows: it's not quite possible at the moment to produce that creamy, full-bodied flavor / texture found in virtually every dessert / custard e-juice without these potentially harmful chemical(s).
Personally, I appreciate companies such as NIcoticket, who are up-front and transparent, providing extensive disclaimers within the description of each and every one of their e-juice flavors that contain diketones in some way / shape / form.
While it would certainly be ideal to have e-juice vendors who are transparent and do not use diacetyl / diketones, my understanding is as follows: it's not quite possible at the moment to produce that creamy, full-bodied flavor / texture found in virtually every dessert / custard e-juice without these potentially harmful chemical(s).
Personally, I appreciate companies such as NIcoticket, who are up-front and transparent, providing extensive disclaimers within the description of each and every one of their e-juice flavors that contain diketones in some way / shape / form.
Also, Steam Juice states on their website that their e-liquids are diacetyl free. No test results available as far as I can tell, though. I find it hard to believe (see: I do not believe this claim), considering virtually all of their e-juices could be described as 'creamy'.
Possibly a new vendor for our list?
I just initiated a trade on our classifieds for a lot of Vapor Shark E-Liquids. I didn't know much about them, so I googled them and found certification links on the site:
Use the "Click Here" under the Analysis Report
Side question: How do we know about the analysis company? Legit or someone's cousin who is good with Adobe PDF tools?
Jay
I just initiated a trade on our classifieds for a lot of Vapor Shark E-Liquids. I didn't know much about them, so I googled them and found certification links on the site:
Use the "Click Here" under the Analysis Report
Side question: How do we know about the analysis company? Legit or someone's cousin who is good with Adobe PDF tools?
Jay
I tried to go through and find the "list". Can anyone supply it? I think I gathered so far all juice from these vendors are ok
Mov
The vapor bar
Juice mafia
Any others ? Am I correct?
Mov
The vapor bar
Juice mafia
Any others ? Am I correct?
Off the top of my head Nicvape, NJoy Artist Collection, Baker White ( also their Odin and custard ( forgot the name ) line ). Check the other thread with all the brands Vaporshark tested, oh and Vaporshark's own house blend i believe.
Wanted to thank Maz for pointing out this thread to me. Still pretty disturbed that after vaping has been around this long, the list of DA/AP free juice vendors so very small.
I'm at the point that after almost 2 yrs of vaping, I'm at a cross road of either switching to 100% flavorless or going back to nic gum. I'm noticing that many of my ADV flavors are causing me sinus issues and a bit of labored breathing. The thought of quitting smoking to get "popcorn lung" is making me nauseous.
I would stick w/NETS but again, I don't know if the chemical interactions with the flavorings could produce DA/AP or any other variables such as ohms or heat or wicking material and the like. So confusing and very sad to me that the vaping community/vendors cannot seem to get better testing together.
I hope this thread gets attention and more imput. Thanks for starting it.
I'm at the point that after almost 2 yrs of vaping, I'm at a cross road of either switching to 100% flavorless or going back to nic gum. I'm noticing that many of my ADV flavors are causing me sinus issues and a bit of labored breathing. The thought of quitting smoking to get "popcorn lung" is making me nauseous.
I would stick w/NETS but again, I don't know if the chemical interactions with the flavorings could produce DA/AP or any other variables such as ohms or heat or wicking material and the like. So confusing and very sad to me that the vaping community/vendors cannot seem to get better testing together.
I hope this thread gets attention and more imput. Thanks for starting it.
you know the mantra......no test, can't prove.
I guess Vaporshark's report has made it possible to add a few new vendors, or at least, certain juices from vendors?
I dont think you have to quit vaping. Just find the right juices. Popcorn lung has never been found in smokers, and it's too early to tell for vapers, but as Dr. F. said, there is measured decline in lung function and often misdiagnosed as COPD.
So yeah, I do consider it an avoidable risk.
Angie, don't forget, there are creamy flavors that have been restructured with diketone free flavorings now. Have you been able to pin down the sinus issues to certain flavorings?
What drives me nuts in the topics about not vaping diketones is the responses you get, as if once you've been a dirty smoker, your aptitude for pursuing real health is fluxored, i.e. so many responses like : "you smoked for 20 years and now you are worried about diketones?"---- and then the usual memes about the toxic air, toxic water, toxic food and how dangerous driving is, ensue.
And always, the implication is that you are some kinda weirdo for wanting to vape w/out contaminants.
I'm glad you guys are here, because I seriously don't understand that attitude. And seeing you here makes me feel less alone.
No, I don't wear Hazmat Gloves to the grocery store. But I eat carefully, and thoughtfully, and i want to vape the same way. I gave up cigarettes to be healthier, not to be lied to by ejuiice vendors the same way I was lied to by the cigarette companies.
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