Don't have time to read back through 4000 replies on the other Kv4 thread. Both of my EHPro Kv4's still wanna leak after filling. I have tried flipping it when reinserting the top cap after closing the juice control. After I get the gurgle and leaking cleared up they work fine. It is just the time right after the fill that is the problem. I believe it had something to do with one of the o-rings if I remember correctly.