nic is degraded by air, heat, and light. for long term storage some suppliers sell nic where they purge the air with argon gas - costs more but should stay fresh a lot longer.
Curious to the cost of making Diy joose
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I doubt your going to use up 250ml bottle of 100mg per mil. I've barely touched my bottle, other then it being brown from the oxidation it's good to go after a year
if I were you, I'd just look at all the flavors that are available, buy a few that sound good to you. Look at the recipes here and goto town 
If that's the case, would it be better to put it in smaller bottles, and seal them ,and use as needed?
yes, that's what I do. And store the ones I'm not using in the refrigerator (I don't have room in the freezer, and the fridge will do nicely to protect it from heat - I wrap the bottles to protect from the fridge light)
I had some trouble finding pg and vg but finally did get some at a drug store USP and I bought some nic in pg from a Canadian supplier only 50 ml very expensive they have to charge more for the nic due to issues of supply I suppose so I bit the bullet took a chance and ordered 1 liter of 100 mg / ml in a 50/50 mix nic from my freedom smokes it crossed customs without issue and even with Canadian exchange was much much cheaper. I bought a liter for 96.00 taxes and Canadian exchange and shipping that thousand Mls of 100 mg per ml will keep me going a very long time I vape 14 mg per ml
I bought quite a few flavours most I have not used yet I have made a few batches some are nicer than others and one I enjoy quite a bit. it only has two flavours and sweetener I also made up 40 Mls of no flavour 14 mg nic in a 50 /50 mix which I actually like just fine.
I have one DIY juice that gives me runny eyes I have to make 5 ml of each of the three individual flavours to see which flavour gives me runny eyes I do not yet make all of my own juice but once you get a few supplies you will most definitely find it to be much, much cheaper some of our juice here in Canada sells for 20 to 30 dollars a 30 ml bottle and I can make mine for less than a buck I also see myself as being a little more independent if it all skyrockets in price. I was spending 100.00 a week on smokes so in the twelve weeks I have not smoked I have saved 1200.00 minus the vape thingies and I have probably spent about 6 or 7 hundred on toys and juice goodies for vape thingies it is easy to get carried away with new toys or new flavours etc I DIY because it is fun and because I like the feeling of Independence and personal control-
my suggestion make small 10 ml batches - read and read some more and go slow and be careful with your nic. I use syringes because I am a nurse and very comfortable with syringes I also always use an online calculator for the math and I broke some of my nic down to have one 50 ml bottle 50 mg per ml dilution to make it easier to use but still am very careful with the nic and use gloves and pay careful attention when I make a small batch. there is some things you will need to consider one is called diacetyl the other is how much flavour you want to use. there are some very smart people on the DIY forum and it can get overwhelming but it is mega cheap and it is fun
I bought quite a few flavours most I have not used yet I have made a few batches some are nicer than others and one I enjoy quite a bit. it only has two flavours and sweetener I also made up 40 Mls of no flavour 14 mg nic in a 50 /50 mix which I actually like just fine.
I have one DIY juice that gives me runny eyes I have to make 5 ml of each of the three individual flavours to see which flavour gives me runny eyes I do not yet make all of my own juice but once you get a few supplies you will most definitely find it to be much, much cheaper some of our juice here in Canada sells for 20 to 30 dollars a 30 ml bottle and I can make mine for less than a buck I also see myself as being a little more independent if it all skyrockets in price. I was spending 100.00 a week on smokes so in the twelve weeks I have not smoked I have saved 1200.00 minus the vape thingies and I have probably spent about 6 or 7 hundred on toys and juice goodies for vape thingies it is easy to get carried away with new toys or new flavours etc I DIY because it is fun and because I like the feeling of Independence and personal control-
my suggestion make small 10 ml batches - read and read some more and go slow and be careful with your nic. I use syringes because I am a nurse and very comfortable with syringes I also always use an online calculator for the math and I broke some of my nic down to have one 50 ml bottle 50 mg per ml dilution to make it easier to use but still am very careful with the nic and use gloves and pay careful attention when I make a small batch. there is some things you will need to consider one is called diacetyl the other is how much flavour you want to use. there are some very smart people on the DIY forum and it can get overwhelming but it is mega cheap and it is fun
Ok bout to throw in a order but i have a question i vape 6mg nic is there any advantage to having 100mg nic versus say 12mg other the cost? Im thinking i could just cut the 12mg in half and just have a big batch of base made not have to fiddle with it as much. Also what is the prefered base pg or vg i vape rts so im 70vg to 80vg. Not really into making max vg as its not great at wicking so pg is ok for me. Just wondering if ones better than the other.
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using 100 milgram nic vs 12 milgram nic your using less and you get more bang for your buck
Take the menthol crystals listed above and drop them in a 30ml bottle. Add about 15ml of PG - that will fill the bottle up. Shake madly til most of the crystals dissolve. then run a sink full of hot tap water and drop the bottle in there. take it out in about 10 minutes and continue to shake until the crystals are all dissolved. Drop it back in and let it sit until the water reaches room temperature. The menthol won't re-crystalize and it will be what I call XXX Menthol - be very careful not to get this in your eyes. To make your own you only need to add .3-.6 ml (1-2%) to a 30 ml bottle of juice for a nice smooth menthol.
Thaks for the info good Sr. I will take that into account when doing my first test batch.
Not even my very high flavoured juices - and I do mean up to 30% - cost more than a dollar for 10ml. The ones where I just put in a few drops and then let steep literally cost peanuts to make.
I make 6mg juice and have found the 60mg nic the easiest math to work with. In a 10ml test batch, 1ml of it needs to be nic.
I'm thinking about stepping up to 100mg on my next order tho - cuz it's also easy math, and the nic is cheaper that way.
It would work out cheaper yes but you need to be careful with 100mg nic. Make sure you wear gloves when you handle it and wash out any spills immediately. Nic can be absorbed through the skin and it could be dangerous. Please read up and make sure you know exactly what your are doing.
Also (if you don't aleady) use brown glass bottles. Has to be glass. HDPE is permeable to oxygen and water vapor.
I'm so glad I DIY, especially since I got my Subtanks.
I was vaping ~5ml/day for years with Evods, then Nautilus.
I dropped from 12mg to 4mg for the Kanger Subtanks.
I went from 5-7ml to 10+ml, now 15ml+/day at 20-30W
It more than doubled my DIY cost...to $12/month or so!
I have an Arctic tank on the way. Good at 60W+
My juice cost per month might someday actually exceed a $20 bill
I was vaping ~5ml/day for years with Evods, then Nautilus.
I dropped from 12mg to 4mg for the Kanger Subtanks.
I went from 5-7ml to 10+ml, now 15ml+/day at 20-30W
It more than doubled my DIY cost...to $12/month or so!
I have an Arctic tank on the way. Good at 60W+
My juice cost per month might someday actually exceed a $20 bill
The juice companys making a killing if it cost us literally pennys a ml. Just think what they pay when there buying 55 gallon drums of of ingredients! They need dump trucks to haul there profits away.
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