Novotny Agitates For "Tobacco Endgame" Again

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CarolT

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The tobacco Endgame: Is It Possible? By Thomas E. Novotny. PLoS Med 2015;12(5):e1001832. Published May 29, 2015.
"Now, however, rather than thinking only about 'tobacco control,' which implies that humanity should settle for the tobacco epidemic being permanent in some populations or at least at some lower hazard level overall, experts are discussing new strategies that are necessary to greatly reduce the global tobacco-related disease burden. These out-of-the box ideas include the following: removing the profit incentive from selling tobacco products by changing the ways in which the market is administered; reducing the level of addictive nicotine to nonaddicting levels in all tobacco products; addressing the supply side of tobacco use by imposing a 'sinking lid' on the industry to gradually reduce quotas on sales and production of tobacco products, similar to proposed reductions on greenhouse gas production; establishing truly smoke-free generations by prohibiting possession of tobacco products by all persons born in 2000 or later; and the heretofore unthinkable abolition of tobacco product manufacture and sale."
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001832

Note that with e-cigs deemed to be tobacco products, this would apply to them as well. And Novotny and his fellow criminals are so fanatical that they wouldn't stop at eradicating every plant and scraping away the topsoil to expunge every nicotine molecule everywhere on the planet.
 

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Some equally intelligent people have previously tried those policies with alcohol and {other stuff}.
And it was destructive to the lives of a lot of people, so let's not be flippant about it. Look at the family businesses destroyed and people jailed. Or even conclude that they are therefore guaranteed to fail. One thing that the anti-Prohibitionists had on their side was a lot of people with big money.
 

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I'm looking at it from the pov of lost enjoyment of life. A good cold beer on a patio in the summer, a glass of fine wine to join your meal, and why not, some cognac and a fine cigar as a relaxation moment.

Sure they all have risks. But accepting workplace risks while prohibiting entertainment of equal or less risk sounds to me like hypocritical laborcamp agenda. Arbeit macht frei....
 

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So.... Let's make cigarettes have less nicotine, so people will smoke more of them, and then let's reduce the supply so we can crank up the prices, and let's make tobacco Stop 'n Frisk a thing.

The "proof of concept" was succesful. Remember the "lights"?
 

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The "proof of concept" was succesful. Remember the "lights"?
I was a victim of that crap, started on Lucky Strikes and only smoked 1/2 to 3/4 of a pack a day. Bought into the tastes good like a cigarette should and worked my way up to a 3 pack a day habit by going from kings to lights to light 100s to ultralight 100s. Was a great deal for BG, BT and BP more packs sold kept the first 2 happy and we were inhaling 2-3 times the combustion products which helped run up BPs drug sales. Great deal for everyone but us.

:facepalm::evil:
 

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Gee, I better start Googling for the best rated Concentration Camps. I just know all of the good ones will be booked up soon.

It's scary.

Out of the box ideas? What is he talking about? Has he never heard of Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union? The central planning? :facepalm:

"In public health, to succeed, you do whatever it takes. Politics and science are both necessary ingredients of interventional epidemiology."
--Tom Friedan

God help us...
 
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It's scary.

Out of the box ideas? What is he talking about? Has he never heard of Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union? The central planning? :facepalm:

"In public health, to succeed, you do whatever it takes. Politics and science are both necessary ingredients of interventional epidemiology."
--Tom Friedan

God help us...

Dr. Mengele would be proud of him.
 

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It's scary.

Out of the box ideas? What is he talking about? Has he never heard of Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union? The central planning? :facepalm:

"In public health, to succeed, you do whatever it takes. Politics and science are both necessary ingredients of interventional epidemiology."
--Tom Friedan

God help us...


You don't even have to leave the good 'ol USA to see how this plays out. Just look at the 18th amendment to the Constitution, and the fall-out from it. We came to our senses, and repealed it with the 21st amendment, but the years in between were pure hell
 
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