Titanium wire, vaping and safety

[tchavei]

Hmm, wonder what grade the ti plate and bolts holding my upper jaw to my skull are? They were expensive, I know that much.

Plate probably grade 2, screws probably grade 4

Grade 5 has vanadium in it so probably not a good idea, don't know.

Regards
Tony

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[roxynoodle]

Plate probably grade 2, screws probably grade 4

Grade 5 has vanadium in it so probably not a good idea, don't know.

Regards
Tony

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Its been there since 1997 and I'm still alive

 

[peraspera]

From what I could gather from Google the ASTM sets standards for different grades of titanium. I was curious as to what the grade 1 titanium standards were but not $43 worth. Does anyone know if there are any possible differences in one vendor's legit grade 1 titanium versus another's that would be of significance to vapers?

 

[tchavei]

From what I could gather from Google the ASTM sets standards for different grades of titanium. I was curious as to what the grade 1 titanium standards were but not $43 worth. Does anyone know if there are any possible differences in one vendor's legit grade 1 titanium versus another's that would be of significance to vapers?

None besides presentation (cleaned / non cleaned or annealed / non annealed)

Regards
Tony

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[jks89]

The surgical grade expression is just a gimmik unless they clean and sterilize it. It won't change grade though.

This is from Envycigs site re: Spider Silk wire:

Spider Silk TI wire does not use any acid etching and because of TI wire properties we cannot torch the wire to burn off the cutting oils.

Instead of these typical ways to clean the wire, we use a four stage cleaning process to remove as much of the cutting oils as possible:

1. First we use water bath on the TI wire
2. Then use an microfiber cloth soaked in an all-natural hypoallergenic soap to wipe down the wire as we spool
3. Next we put a maximum of 10 spools into an ultrasonic cleaning bath of water and all-natural hypoallergenic soap for 4 minutes.
4. Finally we transfer the spools into a second ultrasonic cleaning bath of isopropyl alcohol and water and after 4 minutes we take them out and set them to dry

Titanium Wire for Vaping, Vape on TI wire

 

[soulseek]

So basically what many of us are doing. Clear your wires with soap in a water bath and then wipe of with alcohol

 

[tchavei]

This is from Envycigs site re: Spider Silk wire:

Spider Silk TI wire does not use any acid etching and because of TI wire properties we cannot torch the wire to burn off the cutting oils.

Instead of these typical ways to clean the wire, we use a four stage cleaning process to remove as much of the cutting oils as possible:

1. First we use water bath on the TI wire
2. Then use an microfiber cloth soaked in an all-natural hypoallergenic soap to wipe down the wire as we spool
3. Next we put a maximum of 10 spools into an ultrasonic cleaning bath of water and all-natural hypoallergenic soap for 4 minutes.
4. Finally we transfer the spools into a second ultrasonic cleaning bath of isopropyl alcohol and water and after 4 minutes we take them out and set them to dry

Titanium Wire for Vaping, Vape on TI wire

So you basically just confirmed what I said. They clean and sterilize it.

It's no special grade apart from grade 1.

Regards
Tony

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[HolmanGT]

Hmm, wonder what grade the ti plate and bolts holding my upper jaw to my skull are? They were expensive, I know that much.

Well according to Tony if your Jaw falls off it is probably Grade 1 and you should have been vaping it instead of eating with it.

On a serious note (no answer required) what happened that you had to go "Terminator"?

 

[jks89]

So basically what many of us are doing. Clear your wires with soap in a water bath and then wipe of with alcohol

After reading that I felt a little better about not thinking to wash it myself before use. Then again, I'm also the guy that usually forgets to wash new clothes before wearing them too.

 

[JeremyR]

Mine from unkamen was very clean. All I did was wipe with alcohol and its wasn't even that dirty. Vaped out just fine with no prep or pre heating at all.

If you get an old ti that is oxidized you'll need to clean it more. A scotch brite wipe would be great. I did do that on my first coil but its not really necessary if you have shiney clean wire, or should I say good wire.

Ill say this again as I was concerned before I got ti. I did nothing but wipe with alcohol and wrap the coil. No annealing heating to blue or anything. Nothing and I don't see any issue whatsoever, Am I missing something?

Spider silk - its bs unless you want to pay a high price for them to wipe it off. Most of those processes seem completely unnessesary if you get decent wire to start with.

 

[2legsshrt]

Ok so what do you think of this wire any better or not.
Ti-Wire
I am not sure if it is worth the extra money or not $30 for 50'

 

[tchavei]

Torching to yellow or blue is only necessary for

a) contact coils
b) make the wire more malleable if it's too springy.

When I finally get my hands on that SV vacuum annealed Ti, I'm pretty sure I'll never torch again.

For now, my zivipf wire will bite me if I don't kill it with a flame first.

Regards
Tony

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[druckle]

Ok so what do you think of this wire any better or not.
Ti-Wire
I am not sure if it is worth the extra money or not $30 for 50'

Grade 1 Titanium wire is grade 1 titanium wire. If you are willing to pay folks to rip you off so be it. Otherwise..

Spoonful
Did you ever have to make up your mind" ?

 

[JeremyR]

Ok so what do you think of this wire any better or not.
Ti-Wire
I am not sure if it is worth the extra money or not $30 for 50'

Bs bs bs

Never tried it but its more than double what I paid for mine and to me it seems perfect. Unkamen 10.00 for 40ft why fight it, don't waste your money. Unless you want to and it makes you feel better.

All the prep stuff seems to be related to zipv or whatever ti. Mine is perfect nothing needed to be done it.

No torching and I did these coils. ti is is more malleable than kanthal but strong enough to be repositioned after wicking and hold its position when your done.

This build was wiped on all sides with scotchbrite and alcohol wipe.(my very first ti coils). No preheating at all.
Clt v1, 28g ti, .31


This build was just wiped once with alcohol, nothing else done not even heating before I wicked it.. Rayon wicks of course. (my second ti build)
Flash E-vapor v3, 28g ti, .52


Don't waste time with micro touching coils. They provide little to no benefit unless your still using an ego or something.

It may be easier to wrap it touching around the mandrel to start because it will spring out a little to be spaced, and then you can adjust spacing. Turning a small screwdriver between the wraps spaces it nicely.

 

[2legsshrt]

Torching to yellow or blue is only necessary for

a) contact coils
b) make the wire more malleable if it's too springy.

When I finally get my hands on that SV vacuum annealed Ti, I'm pretty sure I'll never torch again.

For now, my zivipf wire will bite me if I don't kill it with a flame first.

Regards
Tony

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Aha so you are going for the SV then Tony. Thats the one I was thinking of too. Sounds better then the cheap stuff but not a dollar a foot.

 

[2legsshrt]

Grade 1 Titanium wire is grade 1 titanium wire. If you are willing to pay folks to rip you off so be it. Otherwise..

Spoonful
Did you ever have to make up your mind" ?

Too many times since I started this in 08. I think I am going for the SV stuff .4mm 26awg.

 

[2legsshrt]

Hey I've still got some aquarium filter if any of you need it.

 

[2legsshrt]

Might even have a tea bag or 20.

 

[JeremyR]

My .52 ti build on a Flash e-vapor v3 hasn't budged a bit even overnight. The cold lock process i posted yesterday seemed to work very well and there was no refining needed.

To the question does an atty work well in temp control .. There may be some wonder if it is because It has a soldered wire connection to the positive pin. It's good and that connection must be very stable.

I run it with no air screw for 3mm air.

 

[roxynoodle]

Well according to Tony if your Jaw falls off it is probably Grade 1 and you should have been vaping it instead of eating with it.

On a serious note (no answer required) what happened that you had to go "Terminator"?

Kicked in the face by a horse.