Mutation x V4

[TronCat]

So I decided it was time for me to get a rba so I can destroy my friends in cloud comps. I walked into my local shop and asked the guy what's the best thing you got for clouds and he looked at me dead in the eye and said "I know exactly what you want," he pulled out the Mutation x V4, built me a coil and I instantly fell in love. This thing is amazing.

Let's take a look under the hood

He said he built a 0.1 ohm on here. I highly recommend


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[ElevenEleven]

.1 ohm? Oh geez...

 

[Sgt.Rock]

.1 ohm?

~40 amps

No 18650 battery on the market is safe at that amp draw no matter what is printed on the label.

 

[TronCat]

.1 ohm?

~40 amps

No 18650 battery on the market is safe at that amp draw no matter what is printed on the label.

The guy said it was okay... It does get stupid hot though...


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[TronCat]

.1 ohm?

~40 amps

No 18650 battery on the market is safe at that amp draw no matter what is printed on the label.

Should I learn and build it myself at a safer level?


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[themightyturtle]

YES!

Sorry to yell, but your safety should be in your hands and not somebody else.

I'd also recommend a regulated mod for more safety.

 

[ElevenEleven]

The guy said it was okay... It does get stupid hot though...


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The guy doesn't know what we know. The atty is getting hot because of how thick the wire used to make the coils is. If the battery gets hot then you could be in trouble.

Should I learn and build it myself at a safer level?


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Definitely. What batteries do you use?

 

[TronCat]

The guy doesn't know what we know. The atty is getting hot because of how thick the wire used to make the coils is. If the battery gets hot then you could be in trouble.

Definitely. What batteries do you use?

I use 18650 batteries


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[ElevenEleven]

I use 18650 batteries


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Which brand?

 

[TronCat]

Which brand?

Sony I believe


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[ElevenEleven]

Sony I believe


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Those are Samsung 25R's. I use those for all of my rigs. The lowest I go is .3 ohms. This leaves me with ~25% headroom since they are 20 amp CDR batts. The .1 ohm build you have in your dripper exceeds your CDR amperage by 100%. Pretty dangerous stuff.

 

[TronCat]

Those are Samsung 25R's. I use those for all of my rigs. The lowest I go is .3 ohms. This leaves me with ~25% headroom since they are 20 amp CDR batts. The .1 ohm build you have in your dripper exceeds your CDR amperage by 100%. Pretty dangerous stuff.

[emoji27][emoji27] oh god okay how should I fix this? I don't have a ohm reader or anything like that, I put my life in that guys hands


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[themightyturtle]

Oddly enough, I'm using my mutation v4 right now. Here's what my setup looks like.

That's dual 26g wrapped around 2mm 8 times. My IPV4 says:

And these are the Sony VTC4's inside it:

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[TronCat]

Oddly enough, I'm using my mutation v4 right now. Here's what my setup looks like.

That's dual 26g wrapped around 2mm 8 times. My IPV4 says:

And these are the Sony VTC4's inside it:

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looks beautiful, but now im thinking he may have been just talking about 0.1 coil, not 100% whats on here...

 

[ElevenEleven]

[emoji27][emoji27] oh god okay how should I fix this? I don't have a ohm reader or anything like that, I put my life in that guys hands


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Relax, your life is not in danger. Chances are if the battery was about to explode it would be too hot for you to even touch. Pull out the build and try using 26 guage kanthal.

Oddly enough, I'm using my mutation v4 right now. Here's what my setup looks like.

That's dual 26g wrapped around 2mm 8 times. My IPV4 says:

And these are the Sony VTC4's inside it:

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Nice build, btw.

This a good example of a build that would work with your setup.

 

[themightyturtle]

0.1 can only be the resistance (ohms). If I had to guess that's 22g wrapped around 3mm 5 times. Dual coil cuts the ohms in half so yeah...0.1 to 0.15ish. I'm too lazy to check steam engine to be 100%.

 

[TronCat]

Relax, your life is not in danger. Chances are if the battery was about to explode it would be too hot for you to even touch. Pull out the build and try using 26 guage kanthal.

Nice build, btw.

This a good example of a build that would work with your setup.

where could i grab this wire?

 

[ElevenEleven]

where could i grab this wire?

Probably the same shop that built your atty for you. I buy mine from Amazon and Eciggity.

 

[TronCat]

Probably the same shop that built your atty for you. I buy mine from Amazon and Eciggity.

Can you but it at a hardware store?


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[ElevenEleven]

Can you but it at a hardware store?


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I'd assume. I've seen Walmart carry 28 gauge kanthal. I can't speak about the quality.