DNA 200 mod

[Gor3cki]

Hello!
I was digging the web searching new dna 200 mod. None is availlable exept the Hana v200 right now... waiting for the end of august to purchase Something.
I want to share about what I came accros with the dna 200 board and to read about what people came accros too!

For the modders who want to build:

I found the steammonkey and the 2000mah battery ok in an Hammond 1590B

Gens ace 2000mAh 11.1V 100C 3S1P Lipo Battery Pack Dimensions: 67*41*24mm (connector need to be change but the size is amazing for the mah!) 40$
Hammond 1590 B 10$
FDV 22mm 510 connector 6-10$
Steammonkey faceplate 10$ (20minutes mod kit)
DNA 200 Board 80$

Estimate total: 150$ for the box home made mod!!

Is the 100C from the battery too much for the DNA200? really hope to see more battery sized like this one!!!


The DNA 200 mod :

- Vaporshark DNA 200, unknow details!

- VTbox200 from vape cige 200$ and 1800mah lipo

- Hana Modz V200 200$ 1000mah lipo

- HCigar VT200 200$ unknow détails

- Steammonkey custom Vero DNA 200 200$ with 3 x 18650 and quite small!

- CloudMaker Tech Whiteout DNA 200$ maybe a 1300mah battery maybe a 1000mah

- Opus 200 Opus Vapor 1000mah 230-240$

Evolv just release a new firmware that can change the cell number to work with the DNA 200 allowing to use 2 x 18650 battery limiting the power to 133watt! That give loooooooooooooots of option for mod maker and will give the Whiteout a reason to be plug and play device!

Did I miss Something? Did you found Something else?

Thx!

Edit: please note that the 3s lipo battery is a 3 cell battery. That means the mah is 3 x mah to be equivalent to a 18650 single cell battery.
3s lipo 1000 mah = 3000mah
18650 2500mah = 2500mah
(really don't know how to explain it better, please see in dedicated post)

 

[Katmar]

Nice job, thanks!!

 

[Gor3cki]

Thanks Katmar!

 

[SodroneZ]

I thought opus was the first to incorporate DNA 200 chip

 

[Gor3cki]

I thought opus was the first to incorporate DNA 200 chip

Thx SodroneZ i'll update the initial post with the opus!

 

[suprtrkr]

Well done, thanks.

 

[Completely Average]

Am I the only one who sees a 200W mod with less than 2000mAh as woefully inadequate? And 1000mAh is just plain pathetic. Most of these mods you're going to need to recharge 2-4 times a day, especially with subohm tanks and RDAs. $200+ for a mod that has to be recharged every 3-4 hours and doesn't have swappable batteries? I'm not buying that.

 

[Gor3cki]

Am I the only one who sees a 200W mod with less than 2000mAh as woefully inadequate? And 1000mAh is just plain pathetic. Most of these mods you're going to need to recharge 2-4 times a day, especially with subohm tanks and RDAs. $200+ for a mod that has to be recharged every 3-4 hours and doesn't have swappable batteries? I'm not buying that.

I'm agree with you, I want at least 2000mah-2200mah from a 3s lipo to vape my 10-15ml day... then waiting 3-4 hours (during night) to take the mod outside again! like a cool all day vaping mod that you don't care about battery!
The steammonkey seems to be most mah until now... I really hope that he will make it in aluminum!
The major problem is the size of the lipo that are way too long! Is it possible to find square lipo's ?

 

[KTMRider]

The DNA200 uses 3S lipos. A 1000mah 3S lipo is equivalent to a 3000mah 18650 (but holds voltage better). This has been discussed to death on other DNA200 threads.

 

[Gor3cki]

The DNA200 uses 3S lipos. A 1000mah 3S lipo is equivalent to a 3000mah 18650 (but holds voltage better). This has been discussed to death on other DNA200 threads.

I know! 3 cell is 3 x mah... 1000mah 3s = 3000mah !
I use almost 4200mah to 5000mah a day (3 x 18650 a day, from 4.2volt until 3.28volt).
Be sure that my concern about autonomy is founded about my experiences and needs... I take for granted that people know the 3s lipo vs 18650 mah comparison!

my mistake sorry!

maybee I need to specify that in the first post?

 

[Completely Average]

The DNA200 uses 3S lipos. A 1000mah 3S lipo is equivalent to a 3000mah 18650 (but holds voltage better). This has been discussed to death on other DNA200 threads.

But if you're vaping a 100+W mod then you're not using A 3000 mAh battery, you're using two, doubling your voltage.

Take the Samsung 25R as an example.

2500 mAh X 8.4V = 21 Wh
1000 mAh X 11.1V = 11.1 Wh

You'll get nearly 10 more Wh of use out of a dual 18650 mod than a 1000 mAh 3S battery

 

[Completely Average]

I know! 3 cell is 3 x mah... 1000mah 3s = 3000mah !

That is incorrect. The 3 cells are in Series which is how it reaches 11.1V. When batteries are in series you're still limited to the mAh of a single cell. It is NOT 3000 mAh, it's 11.1V @ 1000 mAh.



I wish someone would make a DNA200 mod without a lipo at all and just have the connectors for it. Then I could buy a 3S 11.1V 5000 mAh battery for it rather than be limited to these low mAh setups. That would give me 55.5 Wh of use, more than doubling any dual 18650 setup out there. I could go 4 days easy on a single charge.

 

[Gor3cki]

That is incorrect. The 3 cells are in Series which is how it reaches 11.1V. When batteries are in series you're still limited to the mAh of a single cell. It is NOT 3000 mAh, it's 11.1V @ 1000 mAh.



I wish someone would make a DNA200 mod without a lipo at all and just have the connectors for it. Then I could buy a 3S 11.1V 5000 mAh battery for it rather than be limited to these low mAh setups. That would give me 55.5 Wh of use, more than doubling any dual 18650 setup out there. I could go 4 days easy on a single charge.

Sry I'not an expert. So a 3 x 18650 dna 200 board like the steammonkey (with 2500mah samsung 25r or vtc4) how many Wh that means?

Edit:
I have found with your math:

3 x 18650 @ 2500 mah @ 11.1 Volt = 27.75Wh (Edit: sry it is 2500 x 12.6V = 31.5Wh)
2 x 18650 @ 2500 mah @ 8.4 Volt = 21 Wh
1 x 18650 @ 2500 mah @ 4.2 Volt = 10.5Wh
3 cell lipo @ 1000mah @ 11.1Volt = 11.1Wh

so if you need 55.5Wh for 4 days vaping I gess that the 27.75wh will last at least 2 day? is that correct?
I'm not sure to need such autonomy... but a lipo that is 2000mah @ 11.1Volt = 22.2Wh maybe is ok for a day of vaping maybe not...
in the end I gess we need to try out the mod for a week to be sure!

 

[Completely Average]

Sry I'not an expert. So a 3 x 18650 dna 200 board like the steammonkey (with 2500mah samsung 25r or vtc4) how many Wh that means?

Batteries in a series increase voltage. So 3 batteries charged to 4.2V each works out to 12.6V in total.

Voltage multiplied by Amp Hours equals Watt Hours. (Milliamps are 1/1000 of an amp.)

So the Samsung 25R would work out to 12.6V multiplied by 2.5 amp hours (2500 mAh) = 31.5 Wh

I'm not against the use if lipos in the DNA200. Not at all. I just think that for $200+ you should be getting something better than the cheapest possible battery in it. Something that would last most everyone at least a full day without needing to be recharged. Granted, some of these mods would end up being slightly larger, but considering the popularity of the Sigelei 150W and IPV 3 and IPV4, surely they could make a mod that will fit an 1800 mAh battery and keep it about the same size as those mods. That would at least bring you up to the 20 Wh range, competitive with a dual 18650 mod.

 

[VapeVideos]

ive been thinking about trying to build my own dna200 as my first DIY, but someone told me that lipos might be dangerous for a beginner, is this the case?

 

[Gor3cki]

Batteries in a series increase voltage. So 3 batteries charged to 4.2V each works out to 12.6V in total.

Voltage multiplied by Amp Hours equals Watt Hours. (Milliamps are 1/1000 of an amp.)

So the Samsung 25R would work out to 12.6V multiplied by 2.5 amp hours (2500 mAh) = 31.5 Wh

I'm not against the use if lipos in the DNA200. Not at all. I just think that for $200+ you should be getting something better than the cheapest possible battery in it. Something that would last most everyone at least a full day without needing to be recharged. Granted, some of these mods would end up being slightly larger, but considering the popularity of the Sigelei 150W and IPV 3 and IPV4, surely they could make a mod that will fit an 1800 mAh battery and keep it about the same size as those mods. That would at least bring you up to the 20 Wh range, competitive with a dual 18650 mod.

I can't agree more!!! That's the point! A mod that bring all day vaping and more, so we can REALLY take it like a cell phone in the Pocket all day and night long!

I really can't find a better cell mah for cm3 than the 18650...
I was trying to put 3 18650 togheter like a isosceles Triangle on my desk and it is quite small 36mm (2x18mm each the 3 sides) by 65mm long... I can't belleve that no one is making something like that in a box... I was thinking to direct soldering wire on them, but i loose the swapable capabilities....
I'm just thinking and share
I need a firend with a CNC machine but is more than 200$ budjet

 

[h00ligan]

I vape a lot with temp control. Chain vape. I'm getting about two days out of the opus 200. Opus said 50 watts is 8-10 hours. I feel that's conservative.

Vaping in temp control mode you're not going anywhere near 200 watts. And while I'd agree that if you want a mega battery life the 1000 lipo isn't a great answer. Very few people IMO are going to run into an issue in one day with it. Let alone have to recharge it 3-4 times a day. You'd have to have seriously crazy builds and hold the button down 50 mins of every hour to have battery life that bad based on my experience.

 

[Gor3cki]

Couple of new dna 200 found!

The Vapor marek 3s lipo 1000mah unknown price:
Vapor Marek | Facebook

And the Protovapor 900mah lipo 190$
XPV DNA-200D | Protovapor.com

The Lavabox 3s lipo unknown details:
LAVABOX - Box Mod e-Cig - VOLCANO e-Cigs

The litt up custom THE 44 250$
The 44

Let's see what's coming next!!!

 

[AtmizrOpin]

ive been thinking about trying to build my own dna200 as my first DIY, but someone told me that lipos might be dangerous for a beginner, is this the case?

As long as you have good soldering skills and are mindful of the dangers of a Lipo, you'll be ok. Just use connectors between the battery and the board. Solder everything up and clip the battery connectors dead last to be safe. Also pay attention to positive and negative connections as surely if you get that wrong you could risk your board and possibly your safety.

 

[tj99959]

I'm just trying to figure out how hot 200 watts would be on that 0.1 ohm Ni coil.