Public Health England's endorsement of vaping is International "game changer"

[nicnik]

I'm getting so sick and tired of this BS.

Me too. I need to learn to use emoticons.

 

[Katya]

Me too. I need to learn to use emoticons.

??? Is this a serious question or are you making fun of me?

 

[DrMA]

The Lancet has taken a stand against PHE's study and conclusions. I think you have to register to view the article, but registration is free:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(15)00042-2/fulltext

you think that's bad? Check out the Daily Fail version
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3213676/E-cigarette-industry-funded-experts-ruled-vaping-safe-Official-advice-based-research-scientists-pay-vaping-companies.html

also see my post above for the expert reaction from David Nutt and PHE.

 

[nicnik]

??? Is this a serious question or are you making fun of me?

Not a question, and someday if I ever think of something I could make fun of you about, I just might. But I do want to look up the collection of available emoticons.

 

[nicnik]

you think that's bad? Check out the Daily Fail version
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3213676/E-cigarette-industry-funded-experts-ruled-vaping-safe-Official-advice-based-research-scientists-pay-vaping-companies.html

That article led me to look up the Lancet article. Yeah, it's really awful.

also see my post above for the expert reaction from David Nutt and PHE.

I'd seen it and given it a like. PHE is hanging tough, as well they should. They're getting lots of attacks, but also lots of support.

 

[Katya]

Not a question, and someday if I ever think of something I could make fun of you about, I just might. But I do want to look up the collection of available emoticons.

PM sent.

you think that's bad? Check out the Daily Fail version
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3213676/E-cigarette-industry-funded-experts-ruled-vaping-safe-Official-advice-based-research-scientists-pay-vaping-companies.html

also see my post above for the expert reaction from David Nutt and PHE.

Oh Lord...

 

[DrMA]

More reactions to the Lancet drivel

Rapid response http://www.thelancet.com/pb/assets/raw/Lancet/pdfs/S0140673615000793.pdf
ASH UK comment http://www.ash.org.uk/:ash-comment-on-lancet-editorial-on-e-cigarettes
ACSH Lancet asks if e-cigarettes are a “smokescreen.” We ask, why is Horton still working there? - American Council on Science and Health
Puddlecote Blog Their Favourite Trick | Dick Puddlecote
ECITA Once again, e-cig opponents undermine public health | ECITA - Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association
Spectator Health On e-cigarette safety The Lancet has decided to shoot the messenger - Spectator Health
Dr. Farsalinos: What is the only argument for criticizing Public Health England Report on e-cigarettes? Funding of 1 of the 185 cited studies

 

[DC2]

i'm not even sure what to say at this point.
It would be laughable, if it were actually funny.

 

[Katya]

Jacob Sullum:

Wacky British Idea: Why Not Tell The Truth About E-Cigarettes?

 

[nicnik]

More reactions to the Lancet drivel

Rapid response http://www.thelancet.com/pb/assets/raw/Lancet/pdfs/S0140673615000793.pdf
ASH UK comment http://www.ash.org.uk/:ash-comment-on-lancet-editorial-on-e-cigarettes
ACSH Lancet asks if e-cigarettes are a “smokescreen.” We ask, why is Horton still working there? - American Council on Science and Health
Puddlecote Blog Their Favourite Trick | Dick Puddlecote
ECITA Once again, e-cig opponents undermine public health | ECITA - Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association
Spectator Health On e-cigarette safety The Lancet has decided to shoot the messenger - Spectator Health
Dr. Farsalinos: What is the only argument for criticizing Public Health England Report on e-cigarettes? Funding of 1 of the 185 cited studies

All real good articles, including the 2014 ASCH one criricizing a 2014 Lancet article. Dr. Farsalinos' is the best, and the Spectator article most encouraging, given it's reach to the general public.

 

[nopatch]

Study was written by industry funded scientists.Probably not the same as in other industry funded cases since these are the good guys .