Diketones will destroy vaping before they destroys your lungs
- Thread starter Moonbogg
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
You said this...
"It kills lung tissue until the patient gets a transplant or dies..."
So all those popcorn workers either got (or will get) lung transplants or died, even those only on the job for 1-2 years that were said to be impacted? I'm just calling you on what you clearly said. If you say something as a statement of fact, stand behind it, with linked evidence, don't weasel out of it. Or we will just assume you make stuff up as you go along.
Compared to where? Have you been to Rome, London, St. Petersburg, Paris, Berlin? The air is actually so bad in Rome and St. Petersburg I frequently lose my voice in either city the first day there. In Russia it is due to vehicles basically having no emission standards and scooters in Rome...
Nothing but fresh air in Prague...It's all about risk reduction...
He said there is no such thing as a mild case of popcorn lung, and hes right. Popcorn lung is a full blown condition, from which there is no return. A milder form of the disease can look more like lung dysfunction. Listen to the podcast in the OP. Dr. F mentions this, however, you may not believe he is "qualified to comment" since he doesn't think vaping diketones is a great idea.
We went through that before @stevegmu. When you claimed you talked to "dozens" of people experiencing issues with custards. And I searched your posting history for "custard" and found maybe one or two. And you then claimed the search was broken, and you did not have time to disprove my contention you were making stuff up as you go along...
But they just call him a fear mongerer and ANTS...
That is counter to the gov't reports I read, which are commonly linked. Where the reports suggested "some lung degradation" or some such thing. Not death and dying and lung transplants for all workers (at highest risk popcorn mixers) on the job over one year. If you have links to reports suggesting all those cases were fatal or requiring lung transplants, I'd like to see it. I'm all for reviewing the facts of the matter.
If you are right, then millions of vapers are surely impacted with BO and will be dying or receiving their new lungs in short order? If there is no such thing as "a touch of BO" then surely that is correct? So many logical disconnects in this argument...
Careful, you are back pedaling so fast you are likely to hit something and hurt yourself.
No, there has been a misunderstanding here. I didn't ever suggest this. Most cases are people with lung dysfunction of some degree, with much less people suffering actual full blown popcorn lung disease. With the full blown condition, some of those people died and the rest needed lung transplants or they were just stuck like that. Very sad.
No haven't been to Europe and have no plans on going their. Been to southeast asia though.
I didn't think so. Some here even think Prague is in Germany...You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has been to Prague who says the air is bad, except the tourists who complain about smoking in restaurants and pubs...
I'm well aware where Prague is, although it was in Germany and Russia at one time. Second hand smoke is worse than vaping. You shouldn't expose yourself to it.
It was never in either, actually...Second hand smoke is a myth. It just smells bad to some...
- Status
