I am actually surprised little cigars, blunts and those types of products haven't been banned in California...
I'm surprised that cigarettes haven't been banned in California...
I am actually surprised little cigars, blunts and those types of products haven't been banned in California...
I'm surprised that cigarettes haven't been banned in California...
I actually won't be surprised at all if there is language in the final deeming distinguishing between cigars and "little cigars." After all, they're not really interested in going after "cigar smokers," they're interested in closing the loophole of people selling cheap "cigarettes" as "little cigars."
The Law may say that "Tobacco Products" should Only be sold Face-2-Face.
It's coming, but after they pass a VAT to make up for lost revenue...
Maybe it would just be Easier for California to Pass a Flat Tax. So that if you are a California Resident, you have to fork over 49.7% of Everything you make?
And if you are just Visiting California, then they Pro-Rate you at 49.7% for everyday you are in the State divided by 365 (366 in Leap Years).
Of course. There would need to be Certain Exemptions. Like say if you made over $225,000 of Combined Income per Household. Or $150,000 as an Individual.
There would need to be Certain Exemptions. Like say if you made over $225,000 of Combined Income per Household. Or $150,000 as an Individual.
Unfortunately, since we couldn't even get to a single payer health care system, I don't see us completely revamping our society.I am actually not opposed to VAT and progressive tax. It works in CR, but the Czech Republic has 1/3rd the population of California. The money there doesn't get wasted like it would in California or the US. The Czechs have a history of defenestration when politicians get out of line. Sandra pays no income tax if she puts a % of her salary in a private retirement plan, like a 401K. She has access to medical, vision and dental services 'free' of charge and continuing educational programs. Her employer also offers benefits like paying for designer eyewear, and things like a spa treatment once a month and 4 weeks of vacation a year. The roads are in great shape in Plzen where she lives, there is a world class fitness center where she works out free of charge- it has a nominal fee once she turns 25, there are great museums and cultural events sponsored by the city- like movie night at the town square and Thank You America Week and public transport is amazing. When I get her pregnant she will have 12 months off of work and I will have up to 6 months. When we buy a flat or house we will be able to get a 50 year mortgage if we like...
if it goes that way things wont be that bad. if however they are looking forAfter some thought, rereading the bill, and a discussion on facebook, I think the tax will work like this:
Cigarettes are about $3 wholesale(I think), and the new tax will be $2.87, which is roughly 95%
So, vapor products, will be taxed at about 95% of wholesale. No fancy math about what actually equals a pack of cigarettes.
If a B&M pays $10 for a bottle of liquid right now, it will soon cost them $19.50. You can bet that cost increase will be passed along to us.
ETA: it is also unclear what this tax would actually apply to. They seem to want to include hardware, 0mg, and anything that can be used to make e-liquid in the definition of tobacco product. So will VG at wallymart have an increased tax? Batteries?
Although I remain ever hopeful that you are right...People are sick of it, but mark my words the anti-vaping smear campaign won't hold water because the facts simply don't support it.
if it goes that way things wont be that bad. if however they are looking for
equivalency and determine 18 drops of juice = 1 pack a cigarettes your looking
at $69.91 per 30 ml at 95% 25.6 packs for 30 ml at 95% of $2.87 a pack.
regards
mike
i am willing to say perhaps they were exaggerated.This is something that has come Back to Haunt Us over and over again.
And that is those Ridiculous Claims by the original Cig-a-Like Retailers/OEM's that 1ml of e-Liquid was equivalent to a Pack of Cigarettes.
i am willing to say perhaps they were exaggerated.
most did say results will vary from user to user.
my experience led me to believe at least for me
the estimates were in the ballpark.
regards
mike
if they are using cigalikes very realistic.Here's the Problem. How many people are using 1ml/day Today?
If they are going to peg a Tax on e-Liquids base lined on PAD Smoking, would $2.87/ml be Realistic?
if they are using cigalikes very realistic.
if California is looking for equivalence they will have
to come up with a baseline. what that would be is
anybody's guess.
my guess is if they have read my posts we all are
in trouble.
regards
mike