Looks like they're reaping what they sowed -- they wanted to discourage us from smoking? Fine. We've quit. Now be off with your stupid sin tax, you've gouged me ENOUGH. Now go figure out how to RESPONSIBLY administer public finances.
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Looks like they're reaping what they sowed -- they wanted to discourage us from smoking? Fine. We've quit. Now be off with your stupid sin tax, you've gouged me ENOUGH. Now go figure out how to RESPONSIBLY administer public finances.
Andria
Ok, my best understanding - all "sin taxes" are excise taxes, but not all excise taxes are considered "sin taxes" (although all "hidden taxes" which is every excise tax I've ever encountered, should by all rights be considered a sin - my blood boils when I think of all the taxes I paid on taxes every time I bought a pack of smokes or a bottle of tequila, because the excise tax is hidden in the product price, and I paid sales tax on the entire product price, including the excise tax - how can I "buy a tax"??? aarrggghh)
Sorry, that was more of a rant than an explanation, but I hope it helped a little.
There should be a sin tax on people who try to enact them. Either that or just hang tar and feather them. 
I liked hang 'em better... but first make 'em pay the tax on the rope. Would that be a "justice tax" ?There should be a sin tax on people who try to enact them. Either that or justhangtar and feather them.
I've made a few attempts at finding info about how they came to be informally refered to as "sin taxes", but I haven't succeeded. Either way, I think it's a good idea to use that term. It highlights the hypocracy.
You're right... I cannot find the origin of the term either, but dictionary.com says it originated between 1970-1975 - I am not sure I believe that...
And I found an interesting article at Sin Taxes: Size, Growth, and Creation of the Sindustry | Mercatus that states "sin taxes" are argued to be counter-productive to society because they create a "sindustry"
Thank you for adding a new word to my vocabulary - "sindustry" LOL perfect!!
i inclined to agree with you.
i think the news from England has them re-accessing
some aspects of the deeming regs and will buy more
time.
on the other hand they could just be stalling to
see what the states can get by with.
regards
mike
Maybe the health nazis should spend time taxing some Big Macs for a change, just saying. An observation, never noticed enormously obese people in the old movies I love to watch. And everyone could smoke when & where they chose? Coincidence? Maybe not.
I don't see what the FDA can really do because the science is totally on the side of vaping from all I've read. You simply cannot make a rational argument that vaping itself is a danger. Because there are no chemicals in water vapor that are remotely dangerous. WHat the FDA may do & what my hunch is that they will do something with regards to e-liquids themselves, all the health goons seem to go back to that point, about "not knowing what's in ejuice", so I predict they will do something to require markings and indgredients on all ejuice, something like that, maybe banning "fruity" or "kid-friendly" flavors. Not sure, but I just don't think they will do much with regards to the act of vaping itself because again there is simply no evidence at ALL that vaping bothers anyone who doesn't vape, unlike with smoking regular cigarettes. So they'll probably issue a bunch of regulations regarding the juice, just to give the health nazis something. Who knows. I am optimistic that the longer it takes, the better the outcome may be.
They also could be stalling, waiting for a pharmaceutical company or two to come up with an e-cig, ready to pass the test as a smoking cessation medical device. That might buy us a lot of time before the deeming and a huge black market.
In order to do that, they'd have to deem vaping as a tobacco product, which would force every product marketed after February 2007 off the market, leaving us with nothing legal but the most ancient, non-effective vaping technology.
Never put anything past the FDA and the nanny nazis, can't ever underestimate them. Vapers have to educate & clearly distinguish the benefits of vaping compared to cigarettes.
"I wouldn't mind your hanging boys, but the waiting takes so long.."
Seriously, every day we don't have regulations is a blessing; we get more vapers and more time to stock up.
Seriously, every day we don't have regulations is a blessing; we get more vapers and more time to stock up.
And I keep dropping my nic level, too; so my 5 yrs' worth of nicotine has already gone up to about 7.5 yrs' worth of nicotine. Once I get to 5mg, that'll be 10 yrs' worth of nicotine. That should be sufficient to wait out whatever lawsuits will surely result if draconian regulations are put in place.
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