Need help new Gauge wire

[makuto]

Ok so since I started vaping 9 months ago I got myself some 24 gauge Kanthal and it has been working just fine. I watched a video I think from Rip Trippers that he said that the 28 gauge is for flavor. So I went ahead and bought some 28 Gauge since Im flavor chasing right now and want to stop consuming so much battery life. But the thing is that now with a simple build of 5 wraps on a 2.5 mm bit and I am getting exactly the same ohms and I am vaping at 35 watts and flavor is just not there.. I am using an twisted messes rda while I wait for my tobeco velocity rda and the TM rda is open like 1 1/2 holes.

And is just not satisfying.. Am I doing something wrong or do you have a build for chasing flavor with this wire?

Thank you for your replies!

 

[Tom Forde]

There's not really a specific gauge for flavor, flavor is subjective dependent on the atty and the coil build. Try twisting (if you have a drill to use) 2 or 3 strands of the 28g and coiling that up. 28g is much thinner than 24g & the resistance of the wire is 5.27 Ω/ft up from 2.04Ω/ft 24g. But with 28g you can try twisting it in a drill chuck or if you don't have access to a drill, try doing a 3 loop vertebraid, there's a tutorial on YouTube on how to do a braid. They're quite simple and pretty great.

 

[JohnnyKay]

I'm gonna recommend a parallel build with your 28g, in that RDA, simply because of the amount of airflow it has. I can explain why, if you'd like; just let me know.

So, try 11 wraps of parallel 28g kanthal with a 2.5mm inner diameter (for a dual coil). That'll get you to .5 ohms, which is a pretty solid place to be for a flavor build.

A parallel build is (in my opinion) all about flavor. It's ups your surface area, which is bomb for flavor. Personally, I like to use a single piece of wire folded in half for each coil. It keeps the coil together far better than if I had used two separate wires.

Hope I helped,
-Johnny

 

[EverPresentNoob]

I'm gonna recommend a parallel build with your 28g, in that RDA, simply because of the amount of airflow it has. I can explain why, if you'd like; just let me know.

So, try 11 wraps of parallel 28g kanthal with a 2.5mm inner diameter (for a dual coil). That'll get you to .5 ohms, which is a pretty solid place to be for a flavor build.

A parallel build is (in my opinion) all about flavor. It's ups your surface area, which is bomb for flavor. Personally, I like to use a single piece of wire folded in half for each coil. It keeps the coil together far better than if I had used two separate wires.

Hope I helped,
-Johnny

I was going to post basically the same thing. I love my twisted messes, but it is rather airy. I normally wrap dual parallel 28G 8 wraps on a 1/8 drill bit. I keep trying all these cool twisted stapled helix'd claptons but I keep coming back to my 8 wrap dual parallel.

 

[Tom Forde]

I still stick by my either twisted or 3 loop vertebraid. 3 loop vertebraid 5-6 wraps on a 3mm bit. Flavor (with a 3 loop 30g N80 vertebraid) is amazing. I have a 6 wrap, 2.5mm 3 loop 30g braid dual coil on my dark horse and the flavor and vapor production is great. Plus - 3 loop braids are super simple to make.

 

[makuto]

Ok thanks I will be trying the parallel tomorrow see how i do

 

[EverPresentNoob]

well post up when you get it done in the working wick and coil thread and tell us what you think.

 

[JohnnyKay]

I was going to post basically the same thing. I love my twisted messes, but it is rather airy. I normally wrap dual parallel 28G 8 wraps on a 1/8 drill bit. I keep trying all these cool twisted stapled helix'd claptons but I keep coming back to my 8 wrap dual parallel.

If you have an RDA that can rock a single coil - and you enjoy the cereal flavors (The Milk by Breakfast at Teleos) - perhaps try a parallel 30g, 7wraps on a 2.5mm bit. It's a treat at 25W.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

If you have an RDA that can rock a single coil - and you enjoy the cereal flavors (The Milk by Breakfast at Teleos) - perhaps try a parallel 30g, 7wraps on a 2.5mm bit. It's a treat at 25W.

My ADV is a Unicorn Milk clone that I diy. with dual parallel 26G wrapped 8 times on a 1/8th rod in my Twisted Messes RDA vaping at 75W.... I can hit that for hours. I know its a limitation in how I build, but when ever I build a higher ohm coil or smaller gauge than 28 and have to run my wattage lower I just feel like somethings missing... I hve my Subtank Mini built right now with a .08ohm 28G NI200 TC coil and vape it at 20J 400f. While a nice decent vape especially at work in my office, it just seems to be lacking a bit compared to my at home dripper I listed above. When I first started Vaping I kinda skipped over the entire Evo stage... Started with a Nautilus and then 3 days later bought a dripper and have been hitting them since I stopped Smoking Cigars and pipes last thanksgiving. Never been satisfied on low power. Im sure some one who knew what they were doing with building it could set a genny or something up that would be good for me, but I vape what I know how to build.

 

[kkiet]

Ok thanks I will be trying the parallel tomorrow see how i do

Let us know how the parallel worked for you.

 

[JohnnyKay]

My ADV is a Unicorn Milk clone that I diy. with dual parallel 26G wrapped 8 times on a 1/8th rod in my Twisted Messes RDA vaping at 75W.... I can hit that for hours. I know its a limitation in how I build, but when ever I build a higher ohm coil or smaller gauge than 28 and have to run my wattage lower I just feel like somethings missing... I hve my Subtank Mini built right now with a .08ohm 28G NI200 TC coil and vape it at 20J 400f. While a nice decent vape especially at work in my office, it just seems to be lacking a bit compared to my at home dripper I listed above. When I first started Vaping I kinda skipped over the entire Evo stage... Started with a Nautilus and then 3 days later bought a dripper and have been hitting them since I stopped Smoking Cigars and pipes last thanksgiving. Never been satisfied on low power. Im sure some one who knew what they were doing with building it could set a genny or something up that would be good for me, but I vape what I know how to build.

To each their own. It's far from a typical low wattage vape, though. Regardless, vape what you love and love what you vape.

 

[edyle]

Ok so since I started vaping 9 months ago I got myself some 24 gauge Kanthal and it has been working just fine. I watched a video I think from Rip Trippers that he said that the 28 gauge is for flavor. So I went ahead and bought some 28 Gauge since Im flavor chasing right now and want to stop consuming so much battery life. But the thing is that now with a simple build of 5 wraps on a 2.5 mm bit and I am getting exactly the same ohms and I am vaping at 35 watts and flavor is just not there.. I am using an twisted messes rda while I wait for my tobeco velocity rda and the TM rda is open like 1 1/2 holes.

And is just not satisfying.. Am I doing something wrong or do you have a build for chasing flavor with this wire?

Thank you for your replies!

So what exactly is the ohms? 0.8 ohms? at 35 watts that would be too hot.