I just put in a request on the CEH website to see if they will send me their actual methodology and items tested. Will post if I ever hear back from them. I urge others to try and see if they can get anything out of them.
CEH files shakedown lawsuits in CA against 24 large e-cig companies alleging high carcinogen levels
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I thought this wasn't true. And I just read the other day that smoking just hit an all-time low in the US.
You need to read what you quoted more literally to see how they're attempting to mislead with that statement.
Doesn't matter, in a few years heated coil ecigs will be toast anyway.
There's a reason pharma always used nebulizers or pressurized containers to dispense their stuff-to-be-inhaled.
There's a reason pharma always used nebulizers or pressurized containers to dispense their stuff-to-be-inhaled.
Yeah.... I did a search for 'historical smoking attributed deaths' - not easy.... but in a few different sources I saw (recalling) 1980 - 1984 @216,000 smoking related deaths. 1995 is when the 480,000 number came up and they're basically still using that, despite the fact that adult smoking has dropped precipitately since. They like to take credit for the drop from @23% to now 15% but that has happened since the advent/boom of ecigs mainly(and it had leveled off just before that). We know NRT's didn't budge that stat, except for perhaps the suicides from Chantix.... which we're likely counted as part of the stat
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The media scare headlines are rolling in. War is being waged on us from Government, tobacco Control and other Public Health, and others, not the least of which is the media. Here's a particularly bad article:
Experts: E-cigarettes contain dangerous chemicals
http://kron4.com/2015/09/02/experts-e-cigarettes-contain-dangerous-chemicals/
Great journalism!
Experts: E-cigarettes contain dangerous chemicals
http://kron4.com/2015/09/02/experts-e-cigarettes-contain-dangerous-chemicals/
lol ... Author went off looking how to spell 'aldehyde' and forgot to finish upon return.
lol
Great journalism!
This is like that group in Califirnia who goes around looking for businesses in historical buildings so they can sue under ADA. If they tried their antics in Prague they would be driven out of town...
My main vendor just has the Prop 65 warning on their e-liquid packaging. Problem solved...
My main vendor just has the Prop 65 warning on their e-liquid packaging. Problem solved...
Ok, then that gets rid of the enormous amounts of deadly toxins in the vapor? You sure?
It is a scam to make money by suing companies selling in California who don't have the warning. Adding the warning solves the problem...
Probably either the author didn't check his final before submitting it, or the editor didn't do his or her job.. I'm sure there was an electronic version of the article and the spellchecker routine (if one was even used) didn't put a red underline under (or whatever) the word because 'formal' is a 'normal' word.. Besides, even potentially fatal chemicals have to be formal sometimes..
why add the cost of electronics? it would cut into the profit margin
and triple the cost per unit getting the battery approved for use
in a medical device.
having to prove battery vapor is safe to inhale would cost bu-ku
jingwat.
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mike
why add the cost of electronics? it would cut into the profit margin
and triple the cost per unit getting the battery approved for use
in a medical device.
having to prove battery vapor is safe to inhale would cost bu-ku
jingwat.
regards
mike
The real reason is that since the substances inside the pressurized container will not get heated at 200 Celsius while dispensed, what you have inside the container is exactly what you'll get out of it.
the coils may reach 200 C but,the liquid in an e-cig starts vaporizing at about 84.4 C when the residual
water starts vaporizing atomizing the base mix into an aerosol.optimal vapor production is at about
90 C.
this is beside the point as theoretically they could have used ultrasonic methods too.
its still a cost thing.
regards
mike
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My dad always sends me the articles when these studies come out. Looking forward to the rebuttal, so I can send it to him.
It's a scam anyway you slice it
Also helps explain how labels could be a bad idea for industry
And helps explain how labels for other products could be based entirely on lies
Another typical bull.... scaremongering "study". Ever notice how in all of these so-called studies, they always try to emphasize using rats as if if that will somehow scare people even more.
I think it helps to know that rats and antz are in bed together. Making sweet pseudo love with each other.
Know how many rats and antz's it takes to screw in a light bulb? Well, only 1 of each, but it's tough to squeeze them both in there..
You'd be surprised at how hot the coils get, even when the wicks are saturated.
One of our mods got his hands on a Fluke Ti-20 and did some testing on a Cyclone dripper.
- 2 ohm coil, two activations, 243C and 261C
- 1.1 ohm coil, two activations, 230C and 246C
- 0.6 ohm coil, two activations, 240C and 268C
That's with a wet wick. Dry burn?
- 2 ohm coil reached 360C in around 2 seconds
- 1.1 ohm coil reached 360C in less than a second
- 0.6 ohm coil reached 360C almost instantaneously
360C was the max temp range of the device.
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