CNN Front page "Right under their noses. Vaping: A discreet new way to abuse drugs"

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woolfe99

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That ranks among the most ludicrous articles I've ever read on the topic of vaping. And on the front page no less. Vague claims that are substantiated with single anecdotes, an isolated comment from some cop in Florida. Misleading use of statistics. Example:

"Usage among high-schoolers was 13.4% last year.

Most telling, Hall said, is that some kids had never smoked before. They are new users."

"Some"? How many is some? And what does "usage" mean? Daily, once in the past month?

What percentage of vapors are using the hardware to ingest illegal drugs? 1 in 20? 1 in 1000? 1 in a 1,000,000? How can they report on a problem with no idea of its dimension? It may be such a tiny phenomena that it doesn't even warrant an article. But if it's more than tiny, why aren't we seeing some stats, even ballpark estimates? This kind of .... can and will be used to take away the rights of legitimate vapors, so I think we have a right to know.

I'm getting so tired of this nonsense I can't even stand to read media articles on the topic any more.
 

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Very first sentence brought out the derp.

"Emergency rooms in South Florida are filling up with patients suffering from synthetic drug overdoses, and the problem is getting worse due to a device that's ostensibly supposed to help people quit smoking."

What are they doing, piling them in a corner?

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Very first sentence brought out the derp.

"Emergency rooms in South Florida are filling up with patients suffering from synthetic drug overdoses, and the problem is getting worse due to a device that's ostensibly supposed to help people quit smoking."

What are they doing, piling them in a corner?

SMH

How many of these "patients suffering from synthetic drug overdoses" used e-cig hardware to ingest it? Doesn't matter really, because they already served their purpose in getting readers to connect e-cig->synthetic drug use. The average reader doesn't even notice the distinction because they are trying to conflate the two. This kind of slight of hand dishonesty runs throughout the entire article. It's core premise is totally unsubstantiated with any real evidence. It's amazing how many words they use in this article to convey nothing but innuendo.
 

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"Some"? How many is some? And what does "usage" mean? Daily, once in the past month?

What percentage of vapors are using the hardware to ingest illegal drugs? 1 in 20? 1 in 1000? 1 in a 1,000,000? How can they report on a problem with no idea of its dimension?

Louder! They can't hear us!
 

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So who the hell does CNN think they were marketed to before the recent grab by nicotine users?

Exactly, back in 2003 I was in a computer class at a small technical collage and just minutes after being warned by the instructor to not "search for porn or other illegal things" noticed a young man half my age looking at 'vaporizers'. Doubtful they were pocket size back then, but do remember idly wondering if they would work with tobacco.

Now 12 years later regret not pursuing that thought!
 
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Florida officials say drug overdoses are due to e-cigarette devices.
proof,police are finding them during drug raids. where is the part they found
drugs in all those devices? did they find cigarettes too? bic lighters?
toasters? only one actual incident was cited in the whole story.
all the rest is pure conjecture. i am not saying this behavior isn't
going on. they just as well could have talked about how to use the
cardboard tube in a roll of toilet paper and a piece of aluminum
from your lunch can make paraphernalia.
regards
mike
 

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I had heard a few months ago that there was a reporter (attractive and scantily clad as the story went) interviewing shop owners and employees in town about whether or not they knew that vaporizers were being used to do drugs and also whether or not they were doing anything about it.

What a sad state of affairs for an industry (the news) which used to pride themselves on integrity..
 
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