Kid arrested for ecig possession

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sofarsogood

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I'm starting to think it might be a good idea to buy as much gear as you can afford before it gets regulated or taxed out of existence. Be a real good idea to learn to diy your own liquids too.
Apparently in Malaysia the government has officially banned vaping and there is never the less huge participation and open defiance. What would happen in the US?

My question to the prosecutor in southern Utah would be, how many possession violations have been written for cigarettes? If none, which seems likely, where is the equal justice in that? Drop the charge.

Off topic but I got my first DIY order last Thursday, vaping the first batch and liking it better than my store bought stuff. I literally sleep better knowing there is a 3 1/2 year supply of nic in the freezer ($50) and it doesn't hurt that the daily cost goes from 88 cents to 12 cents.
 

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Apparently in Malaysia the government has officially banned vaping and there is never the less huge participation and open defiance.

The clergy has banned it. There has been no ruling from the government as yet.
 

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The clergy has banned it. There has been no ruling from the government as yet.
Thanks for clarification. Presumably the clerics have also banned cigarettes and didn't get much respect for that. So mormons don't approve of tobacco, and also caffine? If I go to Utah will I have trouble finding coffee and diet coke or is it like Malaysia where the clerics are ignored?
 

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Back almost 10 years ago, a buddy and I took a little motorcycle ride across the continent. Starting out in PA, we headed to Niagara Falls, then west across Canada (which, outside of the Toronto metroplex is an amazing friendly country, but I digress). We rode south on the Pacific Coast Highway to San Francisco, then turned east. Crossing from Nevada into Utah was quite the contrast; not so much in terms to geography or scenery, but in terms of culture. In Nevada, it seemed there were bars, brothels, and casinos in every town. In Utah, quite a few of the stores in smaller towns didn't appear to carry cigarettes (or adult beverages) at all. At one point we we stopped for gas, in a town with just one gas station / convenience store. No cigarettes visible anywhere in the store, but I only had a few left in my last pack, so I asked: "I suppose you don't sell cigarettes?" The woman behind the counter looked all around the store furtively, then said in a low voice, "I've got cigarettes, what kind do you want?" :D
 

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Of course it is a drug. If it didn't cause physiological effects, there would be no point in using it...
Nearly everything you ingest causes physiological effects.
And I'm not sure that I need to use the word "nearly" as a qualifier either.

And also many things you don't ingest...
Physiological effects of exercise

Or how about this...
What Are the Physical Side Effects of Sadness?
Physiological Effects of the Smile

Perhaps you could suggest a more useful definition for the word "drug" when referring to nicotine.

Unless it would be wise to consider water to be a drug?
PHYSIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF WATER
 
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Criminalizing teens for quitting smoking is an atrocity. That's why I've always been against 18+ regs for harmless & effective vaping. After all, since NRT is available OTC for kids 12+, far safer, more effective, and more appealing vaping gear should be as well.
Parents should decide if a kid can possess an ecig off school property. If vaping is criminalized for kids the police will enforce that but not the same law for tobacco.
 
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Was this Kid using an e-Cigarette on School Property?
No, the story seemed to say he was in a car with friends. I add the caveat about school grounds because I think parents should have the right to decide but schools can trump that on school property. If it was up to me kids would wear boring dorky uniforms to school.
 

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No, the story seemed to say he was in a car with friends. I add the caveat about school grounds because I think parents should have the right to decide but schools can trump that on school property. If it was up to me kids would wear boring dorky uniforms to school.

I must have Missed that part of him being in a Car with Friends. That is in the OP's posted Link?

Or maybe, from Post #21?

LOL
 

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I must have Missed that part of him being in a Car with Friends.

That is in the OP's posted Link?
I went back and checked. There is no mention of the circumstances. It seems unlikely that a school would call the police over possession of an ecig but may be. Regardless he was charged with a crime that would be a crime regardless of whether the possession was on school grounds or any place else.

It seems to me the news is generated by people who hope they can shape the FDA response with a public propaganda campaign. I don't know how often that is successful.
 

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It seems to me the news is generated by people who hope they can shape the FDA response with a public propaganda campaign. I don't know how often that is successful.

I do Agree with this Last Part.

Because sometimes it is Easier to Promote an Agenda by not Reporting the Entire Story.
 

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Criminalizing teens for quitting smoking is an atrocity. That's why I've always been against 18+ regs for harmless & effective vaping. After all, since NRT is available OTC for kids 12+, far safer, more effective, and more appealing vaping gear should be as well.

Teens don't use e-cigs to quit smoking. They want to be cool and blow clouds, get a buzz or vape the other stuff...
 

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The wonderful thing about an alternative, you don't have to do option A before you do option B. If you believe option B is the better alternative, you can go straight to that, if you're making that decision.

Exactly. No one should have to become a smoker first before they vape. That gets me so upset when I read an article talking about how non smokers shouldn't vape and it's such a big terrible thing when it does happen. I guess a person has to become a smoker first so that vaping will then be acceptable for that person. Totally bass ackwards.
 
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