TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance

[Iken 2015]

Thank you guys!!! Things are perfect clear for me now. Where did you buy 31awg nife52? Zivipf thinest is 30awg.

 

[WileE]

Reactor Wire
I would email him first to make sure he will ship to Croatia. He's selling it for $13.00 for 25' includes shipping inside the US.
Butch (Cottonman) has told me he's shipped international before.

 

[Iken 2015]

One last question, ti tcr is closer for nife52 with smaller offset then ni tcr? So I should stick with ti tc settings for nife52?

 

[WileE]

Short answer is yes Ti is closer you will need to add 20-30°F to the set temp on Ti mode. So if your on Ti mode and want to vape at 440°F you'll need to set at 460-470° with the NiFe 52 coil.
In case you haven't red this entire thread hear is a fantastic Spread sheet Vapealone made that allows you to compare the differences.
Only thing is I'm not sure if that's the latest version? Hopefully Vapealone will check me on this.

 

[GeorgeS]

While many TC mods will "kick you out" of TC @ +1ohm and others (350J) have a 0.3ohm limit in Joules mode, the reality (at least for the 350J) is that I've used SS430 builds with upwards of 2.1ohms in Joules mode on the 350J and as well with an Apollo Reliant.

Granted you have to keep in mind all mods have a voltage and current output limits.

 

[pevinsghost]

Granted you have to keep in mind all mods have a voltage and current output limits.

And those limits can change with battery charge!

 

[BrentMydland]

Ok, received SS430 from Crazywires. Coiled it, it's very nice to work with. Almost no spring to it. Now I'm vaping it and... I don't to jump ahead of myself... but I'm afraid that even the really small amount of nickel contained is annoying my mouth roof... I hope to be mistaken.

Thats the main reason I havent tried nife52 yet. I found out with ni200 that I have a mild allergy to nickle and haven't decided if I want to spend the money on yet another spool of wire I may not be able to use. If the 430, which I believe is a max of 5%, does it for yoy then I guess the about 50% thats in nifethal would definitely do it. Then again your allergy might be worse than mine. I only got a very slightly sore throat and mild swelling with ni200.

 

[f1vefour]

SS430 contains 0.5 percent nickel or less, not 5%.

If your that allergic to nickel you certainly shouldn't vape any wire with nickel.

 

[vapealone]

Short answer is yes Ti is closer you will need to add 20-30°F to the set temp on Ti mode. So if your on Ti mode and want to vape at 440°F you'll need to set at 460-470° with the NiFe 52 coil.
In case you haven't red this entire thread hear is a fantastic Spread sheet Vapealone made that allows you to compare the differences.
Only thing is I'm not sure if that's the latest version? Hopefully Vapealone will check me on this.

It is the latest (published) version and always will be.
I am working (if at all on a working file and copy/paste the result if I am happy with it

 

[cigatron]

SS430 contains 0.5 percent nickel or less, not 5%.

If your that allergic to nickel you certainly shouldn't vape any wire with nickel.

Welcome back @f1vefour ,missed ya brother!

 

[pbanj]

Unkamen has 2 ver of 430 that I have seen, one says it's nickel free and the other doesnt. I have found I have allergies to a lot of metals. I've yet to have any issues vaping, even with ni200. I have to use plastic drip tips as any metal ones mess me up

 

[gorman]

SS430 contains 0.5 percent nickel or less, not 5%.

If your that allergic to nickel you certainly shouldn't vape any wire with nickel.

Yup, that's what Crazy Wire states... and yet I had to stop vaping with it, because the signals developing in my mouth were unmistakable. Titanium never gives me that sensation. I've tried Ni200, SS304 and now SS430 and all get the same reaction from the inside of my mouth. Slight discomfort, growing discomfort, ulcers on mouth roof. With SS430 I stopped at slight discomfort, I see no point in torturing myself. I'll see if I can give away all these wires I've accumulated. It's unfortunate I live in Italy, otherwise I'd be more than happy to send it to whomever requested them.

 

[f1vefour]

Welcome back @f1vefour ,missed ya brother!

Good to be back, thanks bro

Happy Thanksgiving

 

[Flaskmaster]

Outstanding spreadsheet @vapealone your efforts are much appreciated.

 

[vapealone]

Outstanding spreadsheet @vapealone your efforts are much appreciated.

Thank you.
Any feedback is welcome. Especially the positive ones

 

[xpen]

Don't take for granted that you're the only one here living in Italy..
Sorry to hear about your allergy (?), but if Ti works for you no need to risk/waste time with anything else.

Yup, that's what Crazy Wire states... and yet I had to stop vaping with it, because the signals developing in my mouth were unmistakable. Titanium never gives me that sensation. I've tried Ni200, SS304 and now SS430 and all get the same reaction from the inside of my mouth. Slight discomfort, growing discomfort, ulcers on mouth roof. With SS430 I stopped at slight discomfort, I see no point in torturing myself. I'll see if I can give away all these wires I've accumulated. It's unfortunate I live in Italy, otherwise I'd be more than happy to send it to whomever requested them.

 

[xpen]

And happy Thanksgiving to all of you on the other side of the pond!
From my perspective, that is.

 

[2legsshrt]

Yup, that's what Crazy Wire states... and yet I had to stop vaping with it, because the signals developing in my mouth were unmistakable. Titanium never gives me that sensation. I've tried Ni200, SS304 and now SS430 and all get the same reaction from the inside of my mouth. Slight discomfort, growing discomfort, ulcers on mouth roof. With SS430 I stopped at slight discomfort, I see no point in torturing myself. I'll see if I can give away all these wires I've accumulated. It's unfortunate I live in Italy, otherwise I'd be more than happy to send it to whomever requested them.

I don't know if this is related but when I got my NiFe I was vaping the crap out of it. I got a cold sore and a lump on my gum, I wear dentures. Also a sore throat, I switched back to Ti they have almost completely disappeared. I don't know if it had to do with the nickel because I don't know if I had it when I was vaping NI200. I really didn't use it that long As soon as I tried Ti I started using it. It's all I am using again. No sore throat coldsore gone same with lump in my gum. For me Ti is the way to go.

 

[JimScotty0]

No it's not to low .27-.28Ω is a very good spot for a single coil NiFe 52 In TC mode.

I've got a very similar build (same ohm) in a Kayfun light+ 27ga 2mm x 8 wrap claptoned with 36ga kanthal A1 = .28Ω on my DNA40. Flavor is excellent set to 360°F on the DNA 40 = actual 440°F
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I interchange this build between my DNA-40 & my King mech. As long as I don't run out of juice on the mech I can't tell the difference in taste or heat between the 2 on this build.

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Is that Pima Cotton you are using?

 

[WileE]

Yes it is a Pima Cotton. USA Grown from Cottonman called. Angel Hair 200mm

I know Butch (Cottonman) personally so I'm biased & he has more then just one type of cotton. He is an actual Cotton farmer in North Carolina. It's all I use.
The only other Pima on par is the VCC Cotton. Read More

I highly recommend any of the OB (Oil-removal Bath) version Cottons from Cottonman since they've had the natural cotton oils removed there is no funky taste or long break in. Some other Pima's I've tried repel the juice or have a funky flavor for a long break in.
FWIW I use the Angil hair Pima in all my RTA's, RBA's, or anything TC since it is the best wicking cotton. For the High Watt stuff like a series box with RDA's I use either the Just Red V2 OB or the Mavaton's Select Gold OB.
I don't know what type of Cotton the last 2 are (not Pima), but they are a denser fiber & take way more heat.