Vaping industry wants to push back FDA grandfather date
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Chill AngryVaper!
They fall in to BP, so that's all good for the powers that be.
I'm thinking of changing my site's name to "Raging Vaper".
Andria
Again, the statute states that "tobacco product" includes anything derived from the tobacco plant. Don't blame the court; blame Congress for overlooking the unintended consequences of its actions.
No, those are regulated as drugs. I know I'm not the only one that is glad Judge Leon didn't allow the FDA to treat vaping as a drug delivery system ... they'd have been removed from the market 5 years ago.
What I'd like to see is some recognition for modified-risk products, which in my opinion is what ecigs are.
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Its there then. That's what I needed to know. Now my fuddled mind is more confused. So we are after
all tobacco product users. Talk about mega-marginalization. I wish they would explain to me how and
why I am a stakeholder in all of this. Am I a stakeholder?
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Mike
Naw, it's like you say, we're the steak.
We're not tobacco users yet, it has to be deemed that way first. Thus a gray area. I'm thinking from regulation perspective, users are an afterthought. I think they think control supply and impact on users will automatically be effected. Yet, kids provide very clear, and present example that forbidden users and/or forbidden products will be found by the demand segment. Seriously, without a demand, there would be zero need for supply. And the chances of thetr being zero products in existence going forward are 0.0. And only a slightly better chance that all currently available products will be available legally.
I honestly see no possible way they (regulators) could get rid of any eLiquid, even while regulations may specifically address/reject a whole bunch of them.
What I'd like to see is every single person in WashDC stricken with that "honesty" spell that hit Jim Carrey in "Liar Liar". Along with every single person who makes up "Tobacco Con Troll".
Andria
That's the idiocy of it :
Vaping can't say , yet it does ( get folks off cigs - though it might just be shift from a definitely harmful practice (smoking) to a definetely less harmful practice (vaping))
Gums, patches, etc. say, yet they don't ( get folks off cigs )
FDA should leave vaping alone and deregulate all these gums n patches. After all, according to credible studies, they fail nine times out of ten.
Where do they take the chuzpah from to allow basically inefficient garbage like that on the market?!
If I rode my car ten times and it'd end up on the hook of a salvage tow truck nine times, the manufacturer/seller would be in very deep manure by now.
Would spare them the aches of mucking around with grandfathers or dating grandfathers or grandfather dates or whatever.
After the 'speak-easy' we'll soon have the 'vape-easy'.
Prohibition didn't work back then. De-facto prohibition isn't gonna work now either.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Vaping can't say , yet it does ( get folks off cigs - though it might just be shift from a definitely harmful practice (smoking) to a definetely less harmful practice (vaping))
Gums, patches, etc. say, yet they don't ( get folks off cigs )
FDA should leave vaping alone and deregulate all these gums n patches. After all, according to credible studies, they fail nine times out of ten.
Where do they take the chuzpah from to allow basically inefficient garbage like that on the market?!
If I rode my car ten times and it'd end up on the hook of a salvage tow truck nine times, the manufacturer/seller would be in very deep manure by now.
Would spare them the aches of mucking around with grandfathers or dating grandfathers or grandfather dates or whatever.
After the 'speak-easy' we'll soon have the 'vape-easy'.
Prohibition didn't work back then. De-facto prohibition isn't gonna work now either.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
If open system devices are regulated then they intend to restrict anything that might compete with tobacco regardless of whether it's used with nicotine. That's a long reach.
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