hope you all can help me I would like to start using an ecigarette but not sure what products I need to get me started I am 60 years old and have been smoking since I was 16 I smoke about 25 cigarettes a day and they are 8mg where do I start
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Welcome to ECF:
You have a lot of choices. Are you thinking starting out with the kind that kind of look like cigarettes (cigalikes) or Penstyle or jumping in deep with a mod and : they come in several different shapes and atomizers for the ejuice, (nicotine.)
Most start with cigalikes (I did) but wish I'd have started a little higher on the ecig food chain, lol.
You should read the sticky at the top of the New Members Forum if you aren't already familiar with vaping. It can be really confusing. It was for me at least.
You have a lot of choices. Are you thinking starting out with the kind that kind of look like cigarettes (cigalikes) or Penstyle or jumping in deep with a mod and : they come in several different shapes and atomizers for the ejuice, (nicotine.)
Most start with cigalikes (I did) but wish I'd have started a little higher on the ecig food chain, lol.
You should read the sticky at the top of the New Members Forum if you aren't already familiar with vaping. It can be really confusing. It was for me at least.
Welcome to ECF!
I'll be 56 this year. I used tobacco products for abt 10+ yrs, a combination of chewing tobacco, cigars, and cigarettes. When I quit...which was quite often in the end I tried a patch, gum, the patch again, and inhalers. Nothing worked until I tried vaping, and I enjoy it.
I jumped right in with what is called a "75 watt box mod from Sigelei and an Aspire Atlantis II tank." They have new items out now. Since then I've purchased a 150W Sigeli, and am using the tank and what they call an RDA, which is something that you drip liquid on to. The tank is the easiest device to use as you just fill it with liquid and vape.
A lot of other people may suggest low powered pens but they did not look like they were capable of delivering the amount of nicotine I'd like, so I went straight to the box mod.
Wish you the best!
I'll be 56 this year. I used tobacco products for abt 10+ yrs, a combination of chewing tobacco, cigars, and cigarettes. When I quit...which was quite often in the end I tried a patch, gum, the patch again, and inhalers. Nothing worked until I tried vaping, and I enjoy it.
I jumped right in with what is called a "75 watt box mod from Sigelei and an Aspire Atlantis II tank." They have new items out now. Since then I've purchased a 150W Sigeli, and am using the tank and what they call an RDA, which is something that you drip liquid on to. The tank is the easiest device to use as you just fill it with liquid and vape.
A lot of other people may suggest low powered pens but they did not look like they were capable of delivering the amount of nicotine I'd like, so I went straight to the box mod.
Wish you the best!
Hi Linda, I started with cigalikes as many here have done but they don't last very long and are a bit expensive. I then moved on to an Ego C Twist and still find this just right for me. There is a section on the forum called Simple Solutions and New Members Info which should answer a lot of your questions. I you have a vape store nearby they are usually very helpful in guiding you in the right direction. An additional benefit to going to a vape store is that you can try out different flavors to see what you might like. Have fun and happy vaping! Ginger
I wanted to add that when I started to vape, and even now, I usually vape 12mg nicotine e-liquids, but you may want to try 18mg nic if that is not strong enough for you.
Hello and welcome to the forum @Linda Brown. Glad to have you here!
I often recommend an iStick 30 watt or Coolfire 4 (both mods) with an Aspire Mini Nautillus or eLeaf GS Air M (both tanks) to someone new to vaping. Videos below.
eLeaf iStick 30 Watt
Innokin Coolfire 4
Aspire Nautilus Mini
eLeaf GS Air M Tank
Picture of the Mini Nautilus on the iStick 30 watt
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If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.
Nicotine
A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.
06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes
eLiquid/Juice
PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.
VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"
PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.
I often recommend an iStick 30 watt or Coolfire 4 (both mods) with an Aspire Mini Nautillus or eLeaf GS Air M (both tanks) to someone new to vaping. Videos below.
eLeaf iStick 30 Watt
Innokin Coolfire 4
Aspire Nautilus Mini
eLeaf GS Air M Tank
Picture of the Mini Nautilus on the iStick 30 watt
_________
If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.
- A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
- Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
- Proper Terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments
- Beginner Video Playlist by Abby Vapes
Nicotine
A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.
06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes
eLiquid/Juice
PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.
VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"
PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.
Welcome to the forum - it's never too late to change - I was 65 when I took up vaping.
The small E pens and cig-a-likes have been mentioned already - I too tried these about three years ago and they didn't work for me.
Personally I think Susan-S has nailed it with her links and recommendations - an iStick 30 with a Nautilus Mini and a packet of spare coils ( which are really easy to change) was the real route to success for me and many others.
Good luck and enjoy the journey at your own pace. BTW I would recommend visiting a Vape Shop at some stage to try different flavours of e liquid - most folk start off thinking "It has to be tobacco flavoured and it has to taste like my favourite cigarettes" - but it doesn't as you'll find.
As a final tip, IMHO if you get a craving - vaping a liquid with a wee bit menthol in it can help dramatically.
Welcome again.
The small E pens and cig-a-likes have been mentioned already - I too tried these about three years ago and they didn't work for me.
Personally I think Susan-S has nailed it with her links and recommendations - an iStick 30 with a Nautilus Mini and a packet of spare coils ( which are really easy to change) was the real route to success for me and many others.
Good luck and enjoy the journey at your own pace. BTW I would recommend visiting a Vape Shop at some stage to try different flavours of e liquid - most folk start off thinking "It has to be tobacco flavoured and it has to taste like my favourite cigarettes" - but it doesn't as you'll find.
As a final tip, IMHO if you get a craving - vaping a liquid with a wee bit menthol in it can help dramatically.
Welcome again.
Welcome @Linda Brown
I am almost sure that your cigarettes will be 0.8mg of Nicotine. 8mg is 12 x UK 'medium' cigarettes. (Not that far off something like a Marlb' light).
At the moment, there are 3 established types of e-cigarette.
I would say, in my opinion, there about 4 levels of 'power' (nicotine and/or vapor/flavor)
1. The plastic stick versions are almost all poor and certainly in my opinion not good enough for anything other than a light smoker or someone with serious commitment to quitting. (or someone who likes to smoke and wants a socially easier alternative)
2. The next level up (explained elsewhere too) can be a good introduction. (eGo e-cigs or similar). They can be good, but battery life and liquid capacity and nicotine delivery can be hit or miss.
With both these catagories of e-cigarette, the chances of paying too much for an inferior product is very high. You cannot trust search engines. You most certainly should NOT trust generic 'review' websites.
3. The most practical and effective products are nearly all "mod" e-cigarettes. These days that means a little box with a glass tank. Refillable, easy to maintain, good battery life, ability to vape at low-medium power, easy to charge.
This is what I would recommend.
4. Above that there is an amazing class of superior power e-cigarette. There are lots of advantages, lots of scope for variation in power/vapor/nicotine/enjoyment.
I approve of all the recommendations above, so have nothing to add.
Good luck finding the right thing.
Be careful what you buy and where you get it from; this is the 21st century and the internet is a dangerous place ($$) for new technology if money is important to you.
I am almost sure that your cigarettes will be 0.8mg of Nicotine. 8mg is 12 x UK 'medium' cigarettes. (Not that far off something like a Marlb' light).
At the moment, there are 3 established types of e-cigarette.
I would say, in my opinion, there about 4 levels of 'power' (nicotine and/or vapor/flavor)
1. The plastic stick versions are almost all poor and certainly in my opinion not good enough for anything other than a light smoker or someone with serious commitment to quitting. (or someone who likes to smoke and wants a socially easier alternative)
2. The next level up (explained elsewhere too) can be a good introduction. (eGo e-cigs or similar). They can be good, but battery life and liquid capacity and nicotine delivery can be hit or miss.
With both these catagories of e-cigarette, the chances of paying too much for an inferior product is very high. You cannot trust search engines. You most certainly should NOT trust generic 'review' websites.
3. The most practical and effective products are nearly all "mod" e-cigarettes. These days that means a little box with a glass tank. Refillable, easy to maintain, good battery life, ability to vape at low-medium power, easy to charge.
This is what I would recommend.
4. Above that there is an amazing class of superior power e-cigarette. There are lots of advantages, lots of scope for variation in power/vapor/nicotine/enjoyment.
I approve of all the recommendations above, so have nothing to add.
Good luck finding the right thing.
Be careful what you buy and where you get it from; this is the 21st century and the internet is a dangerous place ($$) for new technology if money is important to you.
Hi @Linda Brown . I agree with the above iStick and Nautilus recommendation. Quality of vape and easy to use. For shopping I have these UK links:
E-cigarette/E-liquid Vendors List + discount codes | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK
UK Forum
UK and Ireland Suppliers
Myepack.co.uk
COUPONS - Stores - ECF E-Cigarette Coupons
Good luck in your journey, you CAN do it.
E-cigarette/E-liquid Vendors List + discount codes | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK
UK Forum
UK and Ireland Suppliers
Myepack.co.uk
COUPONS - Stores - ECF E-Cigarette Coupons
Good luck in your journey, you CAN do it.
Welcome @Linda Brown. You're off to a perfect start with ECF and all the fine helpful folks here.
One thing I would add. Once you've done your research here and have at least some idea where you want to start you might want to visit a local vape shop for some hands on, touchy feely kind of research.
One problem with this is finding a vape shop which is just as interested in helping enlighten you as they are in helping lighten your wallet.
If you live in a metropolitan area with a variety of vape shop choices you can check recommendations using the "Yelp" website.
That's what I did and found a very good independently owned shop close to home. The owner was very helpful and patient with me and had me vaping as I walked out his door. Got a decent deal on a good setup and knew I had a friend there to help any time I needed it.
You can find better prices online but for a beginner lucky enough to have a GOOD vape shop to turn to is worth the investment at the beginning.
One thing I would add. Once you've done your research here and have at least some idea where you want to start you might want to visit a local vape shop for some hands on, touchy feely kind of research.
One problem with this is finding a vape shop which is just as interested in helping enlighten you as they are in helping lighten your wallet.
If you live in a metropolitan area with a variety of vape shop choices you can check recommendations using the "Yelp" website.
That's what I did and found a very good independently owned shop close to home. The owner was very helpful and patient with me and had me vaping as I walked out his door. Got a decent deal on a good setup and knew I had a friend there to help any time I needed it.
You can find better prices online but for a beginner lucky enough to have a GOOD vape shop to turn to is worth the investment at the beginning.
Hi and welcome. I agree an iStick 30 and a Nautilus tank is a good place to start for a smoker trying to quit.
I hope the O.P. comes back. Sometimes people post and then go shopping whilst riding the wave of enthusiasm. For me, that was an $800 error. Ouch.
I hope not.
I hope not.
Welcome to ECF and please know that from reading over our responses that you're not alone in when you've started to quit and that you have lots of support here in ECF. I quit when I was 54 and finally did it by 56.
The Sigelei Mini and an Aspire Mini are simple to use, satisfying, and very affordable. Also they are know across the Industry of producing excellent products.
Best wishes in your journey and see you around the Forums
The Sigelei Mini and an Aspire Mini are simple to use, satisfying, and very affordable. Also they are know across the Industry of producing excellent products.
Best wishes in your journey and see you around the Forums
I'm 63, and quit the smokes 2 years ago by vaping instead, after 42 years of smoking. Since you're absolutely new to vaping, in the senior crowd like I am, and also a female...I'd recommend something like an Evod Double Starter Kit. It's not big/bulky/heavier size wise, but not a tiny cigalike either. Kit comes with 2 650mAh batteries, 2 tanks with coils in them, both chargers, and extra coils...all for less than $22 when found on sale. That way you have a spare battery when 1's charging. IF it turns out that you really like vaping and are going to stick with it...then invest more and get something with larger battery capacity, a better tank, etc. Your Evod kit can always be a "spare" in case something goes wrong with your newer, more expensive set-up.
For e-liquids, I'd recommend going to a local vape shop and taste-testing several different ones. Since I smoked Ultra-Lights (1 - 1 1/2 packs a day), I started with a couple sample bottles of flavors with 11mg nicotine, and several with 6mg. I only used the 11mg ones for a short while, and have been using 6mg and even some lower than that since then.
Good luck, and I hope vaping works for you like it has for so many of us on the ECF and millions of others worldwide!
For e-liquids, I'd recommend going to a local vape shop and taste-testing several different ones. Since I smoked Ultra-Lights (1 - 1 1/2 packs a day), I started with a couple sample bottles of flavors with 11mg nicotine, and several with 6mg. I only used the 11mg ones for a short while, and have been using 6mg and even some lower than that since then.
Good luck, and I hope vaping works for you like it has for so many of us on the ECF and millions of others worldwide!
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I too smoked 25 analogs a day.. so nicotine strength was a no-brainer.. straight to 24mg. I then went to 18 and now I'm at 12. This is over a period of almost 6 years.
Hi Linda, I'm 61 and started vaping 3 years ago. I started out with a cheap ecig someone gave me and went through an array of hardware really fast trying to find something better that satisfied me after smoking 2 1/2 packs of Morleys a day. I ended up with mechs and gennies, but I would not recommend that to you. It gets pretty involved and there's a learning curve to it.
People I work with really love those little Kanger box mods with RTA's on them so you might want to look into that. If I were you I'd avoid the cigalikes, they just don't cut it in the end and you don't get a satisfying vape out of them, nor do they last.
People I work with really love those little Kanger box mods with RTA's on them so you might want to look into that. If I were you I'd avoid the cigalikes, they just don't cut it in the end and you don't get a satisfying vape out of them, nor do they last.
Thanks for the info such a great help wonder if you could advise me on what to buy to start offHello and welcome to the forum @Linda Brown. Glad to have you here!
I often recommend an iStick 30 watt or Coolfire 4 (both mods) with an Aspire Mini Nautillus or eLeaf GS Air M (both tanks) to someone new to vaping. Videos below.
eLeaf iStick 30 Watt
Innokin Coolfire 4
Aspire Nautilus Mini
eLeaf GS Air M Tank
Picture of the Mini Nautilus on the iStick 30 watt
_________
If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.
Here are a few more links from New Members Information <= Link covers many topics. Here is one of them:
- A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
- Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
- Proper Terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments
- Beginner Video Playlist by Abby Vapes
Nicotine
A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.
06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes
eLiquid/Juice
PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.
VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"
PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.
You came back!
(You didn't go shopping... phew...)
I think the iStick 30w with the mini Nautilus tank would be as good as anything.
@Susan~S and the others will know the average prices.
Hello, just wanted to welcome you. Looks like you got some good advice here. Just remember that aside from safety first there is no right or wrong on how you like to vape. It is all a personal preference. This is a great group here to ask anything about ecigs.
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