I currently don't know of any candidates that are (for sure) pro vaping.
I don't either but I do know some that are (for sure) blowing smoke up my kilt.
I currently don't know of any candidates that are (for sure) pro vaping.
Well that's kind of the point. It's such a minor issue that it really doesn't warrant mention from the candidates.I think honestly that non-smoking non vapers don't care either way about vaping. I think they are made to care when something comes up in media. If they are against it, I think we all know why that would be, and it wouldn't be because of something they just came up with on their own.
Really, the presidential issue is microcosm of what we are up against. If not even going to register on the national political radar, then what's the point of any CTA? Perhaps good for some local fights, I'd grant that, but why even contest FDA deeming if not something that is on national radar and/or considered a 'pet issue' by vapers?
IMO, it truly is a bigger deal than other issues, and for sure has something that can be done about it in a viable way. Education or say global warming, not so much. Though I recognize all non-vapers will treat those like a huge deal, but won't see ANY viable changes on that front in the next 8 (or 80) years.
This thread wasn't meant for this type of discussion, and yet, as long as there isn't any mention of the issue from national candidates, it seems like this type of discussion is all that can be had for now.
Except it it tell you a lot about someone's mindset. Kinda like the former mayor of NYC who wanted to ban soft drinks above a certain size. That's just a small thing, but it tells you a lot about he views things. FWIW, he's now considering a run as an independent.
The vaping tax he was pushing was a lot more than 40 cents per milileter.Kasich raised cigarettes 40 cents per pack and wanted (IIRC) a 40 cents per ml tax on e liquids in the budget bill. They passed the cigarette part, but not the e liquid.
10 ml bottle -- $11.25 (tax equivalent of 5 packs of cigarettes)
15 ml bottle -- $16.87 (tax equivalent of 7 ½ packs of cigarettes)
30 ml bottle -- $33.75 (tax equivalent of 15 packs of cigarettes)
The vaping tax he was pushing was a lot more than 40 cents per milileter.
CASAA: Ohio Call to Action: Gov. Kasich’s Proposed Budget will impose a massive tax on vapor products
Well that's kind of the point. It's such a minor issue that it really doesn't warrant mention from the candidates.
Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk
It SHOULD be more than a insignificant issue.
Where do you get 99%? Are you saying it's only a concern to the ~4 million who've quit smoking via vaping? That's close to 2% of the electorate. These folks might also have friends and family who should be concerned. My wife and children certainly are, despite the fact that none of them have ever smoked or vaped, and both my kids are of voting age now. Then there's another 10+ million people who haven't quit smoking but do vape at least part-time to whom it should still be of some consequence. All told, I think we're looking at closer to 10% of the electorate than 1%, which is more than enough to sway elections.It's a pet issue of no consequence to 99% of the electorate. In the scope of a presidential campaigh, it's not a blip on the radar.
There's another rather small group. By the best estimates I can find, it comprises just under 4% of the population. Yet defending that that groups rights has become a major plank for one of the parties. Maybe we should study how that group's concerns with their rights got to be a substantial political concern?My mistake. Clearly vaping rights is a big issue to 1 out of every 10 people you pass on the street. Thanks for setting me straight.
You win. Vaping regulations are a key issue. My bad. It's economy, Isis, climate change, immigration, vaping regulations. 1 in 10 people are passionate about it. It's the linchpin to the election. I was wrong to call it a minor issue.There's another rather small group. By the best estimates I can find, it comprises just under 4% of the population. Yet defending that that groups rights has become a major plank for one of the parties. Maybe we should study how that group's concerns with their rights got to be a substantial political concern?
You win. Vaping regulations are a key issue. My bad. It's economy, Isis, climate change, immigration, vaping regulations. 1 in 10 people are passionate about it. It's the linchpin to the election. I was wrong to call it a minor issue.
Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk
Agree to disagree. There are lots of key issues. This ain't one of um. Not even close.