FDA Vapers take heart!
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But you can resist it, make war on it, which is what we see happening. I'll be pushing back but for the benefit of others because I'll be stocked up for years to come.
I'm sure the same was said leading up to and during Prohibition
Prohibition in the United States
And please forgive me if I have misinterpreted the intent of the original post.
And please forgive me if I have misinterpreted the intent of the original post.
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My Dad was born in 1902, and was a teenager when the 18th Amendment was passed followed by the Volstead Act ...
That's when he and his friends started drinking seriously, as did many others. I grew up hearing many tales of the Prohibition Era, including his brief employment driving "butter trucks" across the border from Canada ...
Ironically, after the 21st Amendment was enacted, he settled down to an occasional cold beer ...
That's when he and his friends started drinking seriously, as did many others. I grew up hearing many tales of the Prohibition Era, including his brief employment driving "butter trucks" across the border from Canada ...
Ironically, after the 21st Amendment was enacted, he settled down to an occasional cold beer ...
Had to chime in here. I've said it before, vaping has taken off too fast and too big for it to be just a flash in the pan fad or something like that. The Prohibition analogy makes a lot of sense to me. The government couldn't stop people from drinking back when they tried, and they're not gonna stop people from vaping either. Folks in the know have stocked up with DIY juice making supplies and mech mods, all the FDA can do is lose lawsuits and hopefully see the writing on the wall sooner as opposed to later. Vaping WILL survive, whether the government likes it or not. So vape on, y'all!
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Responding to the earlier post..The 18th amendment (Prohibition) passed January 29, 1919. The 21st amendment 1933 (Repeal of Prohibition) was passed December 5, 1919 because it was a failure. Doomite said it all. The vape genie is outta the bottle & no alphabet soup government will ever put it back in.
Its interesting to speculate that vaping might become more popular when banned than it would have been if left unmolested ...
Its happened before ...
Its happened before ...
Perhaps, but not by the people who need it most. Of the five vapers I know personally in real life the three oldest (plus myself) would be very unlikely to have started if it was banned. The two youngest, possibly as they both used to...
That's what prohibition of things people do normally does - to make regular citizens into criminals. Prohibition of alcohol made the local crime bosses who ran the numbers game (also another vice made a crime) in the neighborhoods, into the Mafia, who then made enough money to create Las Vegas to launder the huge amount of money it gave them. Same thing happened with the later 'cartels'. And as "crimes" (actually vices) grow, so does the police state, and actual crimes rise as well.
So much truth there and of course, it is whom. and the concepts involved, I drew from for the above post.
Vices - actions that harm no one but perhaps oneself.
Crimes - actions that harm others.
Morality depends on choice. When there is no choice, no morality exists.
When laws (and the force necessary to enforce) are directed at vices, then it interferes with the clear choices that are made with regard to one's personal morality. And because of that, change or advance of morality is hindered - bringing 'something else' into the decisions other than one's own choice to do something or not. It is why banning something, makes it 'attractive' to youth. And that can override one's own rational thought on the matter.
Vices can lead to crimes - especially if laws are made against them, but it is the crimes that should be punished not the vices themselves. That is something most conservatives can't get though their heads. Control-type liberals have the same problem.
By making vices into crimes, a gov't undermines morality itself, under the guise of 'being moral', 'helping children', 'promoting health' while undermining morality and, unfortunately, respect for the law.
Who wants to conflate the two?
Many say the "prohibitionists" or the "nannies" lead the charge.
As far as I'm concerned, it's mostly helicopter parents.
I'd be a bit more specific...
But if I did I'd probably have to leave the forum forever.
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Those I speak of may not be LEADING the charge...
They are just the ones enabling what is happening in the world today...
Unwitting pawns of a game they don't even know they are playing.
Parents have a role in 'guiding' choices, but their ultimate goal is to produce an independent individual who makes their own choices. Guiding every choice (ie helicopter parents) doesn't get to that end product.
But that's really another subject - what I'm talking about is how gov't has become 'helicopter parents' with adults. And gov't is the one who conflates the two, for purposes of controlling behavior because 'they know what's best'. And they can benefit from it monetarily as well - but only if they have control first. Without control there's no 'money to follow'. :- )
Totally agree. Thankfully vaping emerged at this time and not 20 years ago. With the interwebs/social media there's no killing it now. Twenty years ago vaping wouldn't have faired as well.
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