Tons of questions about DIY....

[sketchness]

Whatever flavors you want to try start out with small sizes. Many flavors have looked great in my cart. But very few flavors get bought in the 4 ounce sizes. I think I have 5 flavors that I buy in the large sizes.

1 ounce size maybe for vanilla, cream or sweetener. Everything else in littl 10-15ml bottles. Until you find your groove.

 

[5150Marley]

Sounds like I might be better off ordering 1L of 36mg nic and a 500ml of 100mg... vs the 1L I was gonna get of 100mg.

500ml of 100mg will last me 2.28 years and the 1L of 36 will last 1.64 years... thats almost 4 yrs worth of nic at 12mg.

I think after a year I should be ready to deal with 100mg nic.. LOL

Now I need to recheck my PG/VG and flavor numbers...

Should I look at the Nude Nicotine V2 vs decanting a liter into 10 bottles?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Should I look at the Nude Nicotine V2 vs decanting a liter into 10 bottles?

That would be good to stick into the freezer and forget about for a while.
You can always get a lesser mg in smaller sizes from vendors like ecigexpress to start your DIY.

 

[5150Marley]

That would be good to stick into the freezer and forget about for a while.
You can always get a lesser mg in smaller sizes from vendors like ecigexpress to start your DIY.

They wont blow up in the freezer? That's what I am worried about. And the last thing I need..

 

[OlderNDirt]

@5150Marley , I recently started DIY and I too was scared off of the 100mg nic, especially since I have some hand tremor. But realizing I would need twice the storage space/containers to store 50mg and 4 times for 25mg (just using easy numbers for clarity) to get the same amount of nic, I gave it a go. I had no problem breaking a liter down into smaller bottles for storage and usage. Being concerned and careful? Absolutely! But it is not nitroglycerin!

Whatever you decide, good luck and have FUN!

 

[Hoosier]

Water is the only substance known to expand when cooled. Don't put water in your Nic and it won't expand in the freezer.

 

[Rossum]

They wont blow up in the freezer? That's what I am worried about. And the last thing I need..

No, they will not.

 

[5150Marley]

Here what I ordered from Nude Nicotine... after overthinking the crap out of it

- 1L of 100mg nicotine 50pg/50vg
- 1L of 35 mg nicotine 50pg/50vg
- 2.5L of VG
- 1L of PG

Still need some bottles and mixing supplies (Luer lock syringes w blunt tip needles)..

Wheres the best place to get those?

 

[Maestro]

Syringes need to be cleaned. Get a scale and do it by weight. You can just drip into your bottle. No cleanup. For your flavorings that don't have a drip cap, get some pipettes and just throw them away. Scale, bottles and pipettes can all be bought cheap on Amazon.

Premium Vials B36-pk12 Boston Round Glass Bottle with Dropper, 1 oz Capacity, Clear (Pack of 12): Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

Amazon.com: American Weigh Scales LB-501 Digital Kitchen Scale: Kitchen & Dining

Amazon.com: Plastic Transfer Pipettes 1ml, Graduated, Pack of 500: Kitchen & Dining

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Here what I ordered from Nude Nicotine... after overthinking the crap out of it

- 1L of 100mg nicotine 50pg/50vg
- 1L of 35 mg nicotine 50pg/50vg
- 2.5L of VG
- 1L of PG

Still need some bottles and mixing supplies (Luer lock syringes w blunt tip needles)..

Wheres the best place to get those?

This vendor is having a 16% off sale until July 31.
Your One Stop Shop for Flavorings discount code = JFK

They have a variety of the stuff you mentioned including the luer lock syringes w needles and caps.
Boston Round Bottle with Luer Lock Cap and Needle
5 Pack Luer Lock Syringe Caps
You might get better prices on glass bottles on the links in the above post, but get them without the droppers in them. Get the ones with the poly caps for the bottles.
One stop always sends gloves and pipettes with each order along with something sweet

 

[JCinFLA]

GlassBottleOutlet has super prices on all sizes of glass bottles, with the phenolic polycone caps. I compared them with 3 other places for price + S/H...GBO was definitely the cheapest.

Syringes, without needles or blunt needle tips, are extremely cheap at Tractor Supply if you have 1 of them nearby.

 

[5150Marley]

GlassBottleOutlet has super prices on all sizes of glass bottles, with the phenolic polycone caps. I compared them with 3 other places for price + S/H...GBO was definitely the cheapest.

Syringes, without needles or blunt needle tips, are extremely cheap at Tractor Supply if you have 1 of them nearby.

Are these the bottles I am looking for?

http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/PK-CONT-GLASS-4OZ-WCAP-8PK.html

I want the ones with the phenolic poly caps...just want to be sure before I end up with the wrong style cap.

I need at least 20 of them so maybe order the 16 pack too...

http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/PK-CONT-GLASS-4OZ-WCAP-16PK.html

 

[5150Marley]

Are these the same as the ones I listed above?
4 oz. Amber Boston Round with Black Poly Cap (22/400)

I cant seem to find any in bulk other than 100+ or 32... I dont need that many. :/

 

[Maestro]

Are these the bottles I am looking for?

http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/PK-CONT-GLASS-4OZ-WCAP-8PK.html

I want the ones with the phenolic poly caps...just want to be sure before I end up with the wrong style cap.

I need at least 20 of them so maybe order the 16 pack too...

http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/PK-CONT-GLASS-4OZ-WCAP-16PK.html

Watch your sizes. Those are 120ml bottles. Make sure it's what you're looking for

 

[5150Marley]

I was goin to use them to put the 2 L of nic into.. should I go 60ml (50ml per bottle) instead and have more bottles? I vape maybe 4 ml a day of 12mg nic.

 

[Rossum]

I was goin to use them to put the 2 L of nic into.. should I go 60ml (50ml per bottle) instead and have more bottles? I vape maybe 4 ml a day of 12mg nic.

4 ml * 12 mg/ml = 48 mg a day.
A 120 ml bottle of 100 mg nic holds 12,000 mg.
12,000 / 48 = 250 days worth of nic per 120 ml bottle.

Given your usage, I might indeed go with 60ml bottles so as not to have one out, open, or partially full for as long.

Whatever size you end up using, you want minimal head-space (air) in each bottle.

 

[5150Marley]

4 ml * 12 mg/ml = 48 mg a day.
A 120 ml bottle of 100 mg nic holds 12,000 mg.
12,000 / 48 = 250 days worth of nic per 120 ml bottle.

Given your usage, I might indeed go with 60ml bottles so as not to have one out, open, or partially full for as long.

Whatever size you end up using, you want minimal head-space (air) in each bottle.

Ok.. I think these will be what I need.

https://www.glassbottleoutlet.com/product/2-oz-amber-boston-round-with-black-poly-cone-cap-20400

 

[mcclintock]

I only make small bottles, but my working batch of nic is a 15 mL bottle for 100 mg or 30 for 36 mg. Usually not even filled to full. For me, 60 mL would be a good freezer bottle because it would take almost a year to use up, but you may use a lot more. Just saying, if you're thinking pulling a 60 or 120 mL bottle out of the freezer and working straight from it, I wouldn't. Just don't need that much out and it's safer. The only time I use gloves is when dispensing out a new portion of 100 mg working nic. Right now, I have a 1L plastic bottle (~25 years for me) in the freezer and no plans to break it up until ready to break the seal, which will be at least 6 months from now.

RE: ordering flavors, there are certainly flavors worth trying as single flavor mixes, especially if you drip. But the idea of looking at recipes first is still a good one. My first order I didn't get that much base as it seemed huge enough,only to realize that if I made a single flavor mix of every flavor I bought, I'd only be able to make 3 mL each .

 

[5150Marley]

I only make small bottles, but my working batch of nic is a 15 mL bottle for 100 mg or 30 for 36 mg. Usually not even filled to full. For me, 60 mL would be a good freezer bottle because it would take almost a year to use up, but you may use a lot more. Just saying, if you're thinking pulling a 60 or 120 mL bottle out of the freezer and working straight from it, I wouldn't. Just don't need that much out and it's safer. The only time I use gloves is when dispensing out a new portion of 100 mg working nic. Right now, I have a 1L plastic bottle (~25 years for me) in the freezer and no plans to break it up until ready to break the seal, which will be at least 6 months from now.

RE: ordering flavors, there are certainly flavors worth trying as single flavor mixes, especially if you drip. But the idea of looking at recipes first is still a good one. My first order I didn't get that much base as it seemed huge enough,only to realize that if I made a single flavor mix of every flavor I bought, I'd only be able to make 3 mL each .

Those 60ml will be for freezing then taking them out one by one... these wont be touched for awhile.

Gonna bubble wrap them and line the box with a black plastic bag so no light can get in the box... maybe wrap them individually if I can find some thin bubble wrap for FREE.

60ml of 100 nic will last me around 125 days...

I think that will be ok sitting out in a cool dark dry place till it gone while I mix up different batches of juice.

 

[Rossum]

60ml of 100 nic will last me around 125 days...

I think that will be ok sitting out in a cool dark dry place till it gone while I mix up different batches of juice.

I'll suggest an alternate strategy:

When you get out one of those 60 ml bottles, mix it with 120 ml of PG or VG (whichever you prefer). Now you've got three 60 ml bottles of 33 mg/ml. Put two of them back in the freezer, and keep one out to use / work from. That way you've only got ~40 days worth of nic sitting at room temperature in a partially full bottle.